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07-09-2006, 07:22 PM
|  | Hatchet Harry | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: scotland
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Originally Posted by Grunge Dust Lord of the Flies anyone? Excellent book and the end just KILLED it. | oh no im in the middle of reading that 
my boyfriend said the ending to Sophies World was amazing and sure it was kinda groovy but it wasn't that mind-blowing.
__________________ Said Hamlet to Ophelia,
I'll draw a sketch of thee,
What kind of pencil shall I use?
2B or not 2B? a glimpse of plinths where Midian lies |
07-09-2006, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LawyerMcLaw
I make the comparison with TV, because I feel like a lot of TV (and movies too) is compelled to follow the happily-ever-after path because of advertizing dollars, while fiction is more likely to be prized for it's cutting edge and ability to bring to light things which we consider ugly and repressed. So it seems only natural that fiction would forgo the denouement and traditional ending. It usually leaves me with a really unsettled pit in my stomach, and then I know it's doing it's job.
| this is true
i agree |
07-12-2006, 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by clinquant this is true
i agree | Awesome.
So what's your theory, bort? |
07-14-2006, 07:19 PM
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| | | I just finished Oryx and Crake and all I can say is grrrr. I like everything wrapped up in a neat little package. None of this "anything could happen" bs. |
07-14-2006, 07:22 PM
|  | Jessica | | Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: California
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Originally Posted by LawyerMcLaw I just finished Oryx and Crake and all I can say is grrrr. I like everything wrapped up in a neat little package. None of this "anything could happen" bs. | Haha, I don't much like the ending either, but I love the rest of the book. |
07-14-2006, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonofagun Haha, I don't much like the ending either, but I love the rest of the book. | I actually did like the book, and I suppose the end isn't really the point.
But still, I thought the whole apocalyptic premise of the book was a bit... played out. Yes, utopian visions can go horribly awry. |
07-14-2006, 09:38 PM
|  | Phil Goff | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Westport, New Zealand
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Originally Posted by LawyerMcLaw Awesome.
So what's your theory, bort? | No theory, just going on gut feelings. I guess it might often be that an author has a great idea for something to write about, but they don't necessarly go in with a great idea for a conclusion? They find writing them boring?
Also: I am now a High School English teacher! Eeeeeeeeeeeeek. I start teaching (variously) Debating, a film study, 1984 and a research project on Monday. So I guess I had better go away and come up with some better ideas on this topic, show I'm up to the task... |
07-14-2006, 09:55 PM
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| | Congratulations! Lots of good people are high school English teachers. I was brought up by one, so I should know. 
Good luck with your lesson plan! I'm sure you'll wow them. Just be tough and don't let those snot nosed kids take advantage. |
07-14-2006, 10:20 PM
| | Phil Goff | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Westport, New Zealand
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Originally Posted by LawyerMcLaw Just be tough and don't let those snot nosed kids take advantage. | Apparenty 10M are uber-tough and part of a whole-class management programme. But they will like me or perish. The only two options. |
07-14-2006, 10:36 PM
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| | | For some reason I have this image of you singing that song from the Sound of Music...
I have confidence
They'll put me to the test!
But I'll make them see
I have confidence in me.
Somehow I will impress them.
I will be firm, but kind.
And all those children,
Heaven bless them
They will look up to me
And mind me!
Can you click your heels? |
07-14-2006, 10:47 PM
| | Phil Goff | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Westport, New Zealand
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Originally Posted by LawyerMcLaw Can you click your heels? | I can, I just don't know if I should. Actually, I may go completely against Maria's (von Trapp, not Montessori) teachings and bring back the "whistle" system. |
07-14-2006, 10:53 PM
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| | | books have bad ending because you need to be a fucked up person in order to write a book... or to write a good book... at least, most of the time.
and so fucked up people, who often have thought of killing themselves, just kill characters in books instead.
if all the characters stay alive, then the author commits suicide.
it's simply true. |
07-14-2006, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by shivathedestroyer if all the characters stay alive, then the author commits suicide.
it's simply true. | 4 realz? I'd go check to if it's true right now, but if you promise me you're telling the truth... |
07-14-2006, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bort I can, I just don't know if I should. Actually, I may go completely against Maria's (von Trapp, not Montessori) teachings and bring back the "whistle" system. | Ah the whistle system... If there are ever any Junior McLaws you can bet your bottom dollar they'll be marching to a series of piercing whistling commands. |
07-15-2006, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by LawyerMcLaw Ah the whistle system... If there are ever any Junior McLaws you can bet your bottom dollar they'll be marching to a series of piercing whistling commands. | I should bloody think so! |
07-15-2006, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bort I should bloody think so! | <3
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