he's such a bad writer, but i came across the victor/jamie/bobby fuck scene tonight and have jerked off a bunch of times.

it's nothing special, but bobby tells victor to show him his asshole, and then says something like "that's a nice pink butthole, man. you want me to fuck it with this cock huh?"

i think it was the "man" that did it for me. and i started thinking that bret probably says stuff like that during sex. i get hard everytime he uses the word "dude". because it's the vintage, west coast, new wave kroq usage.

not the fred durst revival usage that is so common now. courtney started saying dude because of fred durst. how many times did she say it on the LTT tour compared to celeb skin tour. something like 0:250. she never said it pre-1998. and most of you picked it up from courtney.

i also like how victor gets pressured into taking bobby's cock without a condom. nice touch.

ive read some ellis interviews and he seems like a mildy cranky guy and probably doesn't have much tolerance for rubberheads himself.
it's the really nice guys who leave you for dead after they fuck you that bother me. the guys who treat you like shit from the start are okay as far as im concerned.

I never got his books, I read 'The Rules Of Attraction" and "The Informers" but I didnt get them. Like, they werent really stories, well the informers didnt seem to be one so much. Like it was little snippets, a few characters were connected. Can anyone explain what he was trying to do?

I've said dude since 1987.

what exactly is the point here?
are we talking about B.E.E'S sex scenes, or people using the word "dude", or the fact that he seems like a bit of a jerk?

as far as his books go, the two most recent really the only ones with actual storylines.

killthelastromantic, that's pretty much the point of his books. almost all of the characters are connected in some way, and their lives don't have much purpose. it's just nameless sex, drug abuse and decadence. i love it. it's all miserable and depressing. i love that his first few novels don't really "go" anywhere.

& i've said "dude" since i was about 14, i'm sure of it.

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jesus christ, you're so fucking condescending


DUDE

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These are the things I hate about his books. If he wasn't so funny he would be totally insufferable. The Rules of Attraction is better than his first book, just because it's funnier.

Somebody on here wrote some Ellis inspired story the other week. And remembered everything except the jokes.

I'm not big on the plots of his last two books either. He isn't good enough at writing escapist fiction for it to be interesting.
Teenage Pussy and the memoir stuff was the best part of Lunar Park. For the first bunch of pages I was sure it was going to be one of my favorite books. But the stupid haunted house shit bored me out of my the skull. I'm sure he was making a point, but I was too bored to care.

Glamorama turned to shit too.

American Psycho is probably his best book just because it's so fucking hilariously funny. And the target is deserving of the satire.

Whereas with Glamorama, it's pointing out that models are shallow. Celebrity culture is shallow and mean spirited. Oh. Good thing we have a big, boring 500 page book to point that out.

i love Glamorama, it's just fun imo!

I've only read american psycho & the rules of attraction.
American psycho was amazing, far far better than the film

Uh, that's because they didn't include the nailgun rape scene, the cannibalism, or the prostitute getting her tits blown up.

exactly