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Old 04-29-2007, 03:03 PM
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Rimbaud

Anyone else a fan? I LOVE his work and as a person i think his life was really interesting, not just the time writing poetry but after that too. Verlaine & Rimbaud were one of the greatest couples in my opinion. I'm going to see the play Total Eclipse in London soon, it'll be interesting to see someone other than leonardo dicaprio play him, even though he did a brilliant job....so, yes show some Rimbaud love
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Anyone else a fan? I LOVE his work and as a person i think his life was really interesting, not just the time writing poetry but after that too. Verlaine & Rimbaud were one of the greatest couples in my opinion. I'm going to see the play Total Eclipse in London soon, it'll be interesting to see someone other than leonardo dicaprio play him, even though he did a brilliant job....so, yes show some Rimbaud love
Love him Rimbaud and Verlaine, oh yeah.
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He's so good he's effective even in bad translation. For a poet that's amazing.
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i love my Arty Rimbaud
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oh. *buries face in the wonderfulness of this thread*

I am a total rimbaud head

I have about every biography of his ever written.
And just to piss off the people around me, quote lines from Le Bateau D'ivre for no reason other than the have to stop whatever they're doing to correct my french.

I think Dicaprio did do a good job, it was good timing, he was still in that lanky "my hair is crazy and i cant control my arms and leg stage"...that was wicked for portraying Rimbaud.
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Verlaine & Rimbaud x

i wonder what he was like in africa when he stopped writing.. like, the person I know of in paris e.t.c.. it's like he became another person. selling coffee & loosing legs & all that
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Morning of Drunkenness is one of my favorites.

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Strangely, I've never read any of his stuff. Could anyone recommend a place to start? I read French poetry in French, not bad translations, so I'd prefer that please. I have a vague idea about his life and the kind of stuff he writes, I'm a Baudelaire obsessive & I just haven't got round to reading any Rimbaud for some reason.
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I've decided to revive my Rimbaud thread because I have a question and it doesn't need a new thread really. Anyway, I have almost finished reading a fantastic Rimbaud biography by Graham Robb. I'd recommend it to anyone, it's brilliant, so much detail, it's funny and easy to read. Anyway, I know the gay community have always liked to think of Rimbaud as a big figure in gay culture not least because of his relationship with Paul Verlaine but I'm seriously doubting that he was actually gay. I mean from reading this biography, i think it had more to do with him wanting to experience everything. What does anyone else think? It's obvious that Verlaine was very much in love with Rimbaud but I don't think Rimbaud was in love with Verlaine to be honest. I think he needed him for various reasons but that wasn't love. Having said that, he did have a couple of affairs with other men after Verlaine..hmm.
His letters from Africa suggested that he wanted to get married and have a family and he did have relationships with quite a few women while he was living there and before that when he was in the army (well, that's if hookers count). It's as if he did a complete 360 and yes, he completely changed or did he just grow up?? No longer wanting to do the things he did in his teenage years??
He was just so multi layered that's one of the things that makes him so interesting...
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His letters from Africa suggested that he wanted to get married and have a family and he did have relationships with quite a few women while he was living there and before that when he was in the army (well, that's if hookers count).
Hi ... how do you know he had many relationships with women? I know of one. In Africa he lived with a girl and tried tutoring her but soon tired of her cuz she was not that bright. Then he lived with a boy. When Rimbaud was dying in France, his sister said he only spoke fondly of the boy. The story of the girl came not from his letters, but from his business pals.

In a letter he did tell his mother he wanted to return to France and get married but that doesn't mean he really wanted to, or that he would have. Cuz he kept putting off a return, and only returned cuz he was dying and needed treatment. He may have written it cuz that's what she wanted to read.

I read many of his letters but not all of em, so maybe I missed something about these many relationships. Though I'm skeptical I gotta admit. I never heard anything about it! All this time.

Yep I've read Rimbaud since I was 15 (as well as Baudelaire) ... my favorite biography is the Enid Starkie book, though it has some inaccuracies ... then there's the more recent book written by somebody that went to Harare and basically followed the same path, though fairly recently--that was given to me as a gift. It's kinda different.
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i wonder what he was like in africa when he stopped writing.. like, the person I know of in paris e.t.c.. it's like he became another person. selling coffee & loosing legs & all that
It's cuz ... ok, it's suggested from his writing that poetry for him was a means to an end, and that end was to become a true magician ... to become all-powerful. When he realized that it didn't give him magical powers--that it was drugs that made him think so--he dropped it.

Then he decided that it was engineers and adventurers, and those sorts of people that were the magicians of the modern age (his poem Geni explains this), and that was what he next set out to do ...
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Hi ... how do you know he had many relationships with women? I know of one. In Africa he lived with a girl and tried tutoring her but soon tired of her cuz she was not that bright. Then he lived with a boy. When Rimbaud was dying in France, his sister said he only spoke fondly of the boy. The story of the girl came not from his letters, but from his business pals.

In a letter he did tell his mother he wanted to return to France and get married but that doesn't mean he really wanted to, or that he would have. Cuz he kept putting off a return, and only returned cuz he was dying and needed treatment. He may have written it cuz that's what she wanted to read.

I read many of his letters but not all of em, so maybe I missed something about these many relationships. Though I'm skeptical I gotta admit. I never heard anything about it! All this time.

Yep I've read Rimbaud since I was 15 (as well as Baudelaire) ... my favorite biography is the Enid Starkie book, though it has some inaccuracies ... then there's the more recent book written by somebody that went to Harare and basically followed the same path, though fairly recently--that was given to me as a gift. It's kinda different.
Hey, well it's all in this biography, it's supposed to be the most detailed and the most accurate one..published in 2001. I'm not sure if it's the one you have?. amazon link to the book

When I have some more time tomorrow i'll go back through it and see if I can type up the sections where it references other women.

I want the book with all his letters in it badly...

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Hey, well it's all in this biography, it's supposed to be the most detailed and the most accurate one..published in 2001. I'm not sure if it's the one you have?. amazon link to the book

When I have some more time tomorrow i'll go back through it and see if I can type up the sections where it references other women.

I want the book with all his letters in it badly...
Ok ... I would like that. I know it says in Wiki he took several native women as lovers but Wiki should not be completely trusted. Even a book could get it wrong ... what interests me is how they came by that conclusion, if they did ... and like I said, I know of one and the source. The prostitutes ... well, also, that is news to me.

Well ... what I got is two books of his poetry (two different translations) and in the back of each book are letters--though not all his letters. But obviously they are the more compelling ones that were chosen. And I got the Enid Starkie book which is biography ... and that other book I mentioned, something like Travels in Abysinnia or something ... and ... oh ya, I got another bio, I forget by who, it was a library book I forgot to return. It's nothing special.

There's a French site that got some rare photos of him in Africa. The blurry ones he took himself, and also a rare group photo with other merchants (I can't find this one now on there, maybe they decided it wasn't him... used to be on there).

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Couldn't find any? You probably got it from the Wiki reference ... I'll look into more later ... I don't think there's much to it. But if somebody proves me wrong, I'll accept it.
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Couldn't find any? You probably got it from the Wiki reference ... I'll look into more later ... I don't think there's much to it. But if somebody proves me wrong, I'll accept it.
no, i've just been busy. I will do it...i promise....and no this is in a proper book, by a proper real life person..who studied Rimbaud at Oxford. I might have time tonight, but i'm going on holiday tomorrow.
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