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03-18-2007, 02:55 AM
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| | | Who is guilty of have had not that it warrants a thread Not to be too anal, but instead of saying the often annoying 'I have had <a cough>'
try remaining in the progressive context of the sentence by saying;
'I have coughed for 8 months'
or
'I am coughing close to a year'
Because, seriously, 'have' and 'had' should never be seen together.
Who is guilty of this laxatating pleasure?
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03-18-2007, 03:09 AM
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| | | what's wrong with the present perfect?
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Originally Posted by DoloresHaze I did not miss the point, I just had a moment where Marilyn's tragedy overwhelmed me. Such a pure creature, she was just light gone too soon. | | 
03-18-2007, 03:15 AM
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| | | why does it matter? does God kill a kitten every time i speak improper english? it gets the point across, & that's the whole point of language - communication
so i think that's just fucking stupid | 
03-18-2007, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by omar why does it matter? does God kill a kitten every time i speak improper english? | YES. You should know that by now.
"I am coughing close to a year" sounds absolutely terrible. I hope you never use that sentence in real life. "I have been coughing close to a year", please. It is perfectly okay to use passive voice on occasions.
"I have coughed for 8 months" also sounds very hard to squeeze into a context where that would be the most logical way of expressing yourself. Basically that is best used as the answer to such vital questions as "have you coughed for eight months?" or "what have you done for eight months?".
For numbers ten and under, you really should spell the word, not enter the digits.
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03-18-2007, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by bort YES. You should know that by now.
"I am coughing close to a year" sounds absolutely terrible. I hope you never use that sentence in real life. "I have been coughing close to a year", please. It is perfectly okay to use passive voice on occasions.
"I have coughed for 8 months" also sounds very hard to squeeze into a context where that would be the most logical way of expressing yourself. Basically that is best used as the answer to such vital questions as "have you coughed for eight months?" or "what have you done for eight months?".
For numbers ten and under, you really should spell the word, not enter the digits. | Writing the number in a textual format rather than a digital format is preference over substance. Rather, I have a tendency to hate when people write "you're" over "you are" and so forth. Not that I am a literary genius but as a humble English student I have some standards.
For instance, I shuddered when my Chinese speaking friend texted me the message "I carn't score tonight" because the word "carn't" really stuck in my mind in a viral way ever since the text. Hence vindicating my self every chance I get with repeating that dreadful word to others.
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03-18-2007, 04:49 AM
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| | | no there's a point where it would stop making sense but "i have had a cough"? come on now! | 
03-18-2007, 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by omar no there's a point where it would stop making sense but "i have had a cough"? come on now! | *shudders*
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03-18-2007, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Silvine vindicating my self | I think that is probably a euphemism for wanking.
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03-18-2007, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by bort I think that is probably a euphemism for wanking. | Bort, as a God fearing man, I hardly constitute masturbation.
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03-18-2007, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Silvine Bort, as a God fearing man, I hardly constitute masturbation. | What is your native language?
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03-18-2007, 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by sokkar what's wrong with the present perfect? | The present perfect is compartmental and relies on previous constructs that relate rather to the creation of Satan instead of the Heavenly Host.
The present perfect is much akin to the roads and pathways in this world. Personally, as a crazy drug addled mental health patient, I have a fucking problem with it and with this world. I want Jesus to come and slap your face and slap all the other people like you who get under my fucking skin where I can not sleep at night from fear of reprisal.
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03-18-2007, 05:24 AM
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| | | splitt infinitivzz Quote:
Originally Posted by Silvine The present perfect is compartmental and relies on previous constructs that relate rather to the creation of Satan instead of the Heavenly Host.
The present perfect is much akin to the roads and pathways in this world. Personally, as a crazy drug addled mental health patient, I have a fucking problem with it and with this world. I want Jesus to come and slap your face and slap all the other people like you who get under my fucking skin where I can not sleep at night from fear of reprisal. | So the whole time you weren't even trying to make sense? I was struggling manfully with your posts, trying to uncover the really rather good points you'd hidden away, and I was wasting my time. Bugger. You know big words, now use them properly.
I, however, do constitute masturbation, btw.
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03-18-2007, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by bort So the whole time you weren't even trying to make sense? I was struggling manfully with your posts, trying to uncover the really rather good points you'd hidden away, and I was wasting my time. Bugger. You know big words, now use them properly.
I, however, do constitute masturbation, btw. | This is Bort:
"Silvine intentionally uses 'big' words incorrectly and does not make sense."
Oh, you sure got me...
By the way, grow the fuck up.
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03-18-2007, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Silvine
"Silvine intentionally uses 'big' words incorrectly and does not make sense." | I didn't know that is what I said.
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I escaped somehow. Let's go actualy [sic] I have quite a blessed life if I'm honest. I have many people to love, hate few and have few money problem's [sic].... What more does a person need? Oh yeah and I have some kind of humbleness unlike you of course ^_^ ~ CarefulCarpenter | 
03-18-2007, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by bort I didn't know that is what I said. | Bort you can have the last word on this if doing so makes you believe you won this arguement but remember I left the thread because your intellect was a 'big' turn off for my self.
Oh, by the way, grow the fuck up.
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03-18-2007, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Silvine Bort you can have the last word on this if doing so makes you believe you won this arguement but remember I left the thread because your intellect was a 'big' turn off for my self.
Oh, by the way, grow the fuck up. | What argument? Is this not a discussion? Is this just you haranguing me?
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03-18-2007, 09:26 AM
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| | | i always make such mistakes in speech, it's hard when you've grown up in a workingclass house, it can't help but rub off. | 
03-18-2007, 10:30 AM
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