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04-24-2006, 02:16 AM
|  | Material Girl | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: scandinavia
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| | | Harry Potter.. again.. Do you think Snape is really evil? And do you think Dumbledore is really dead?
What do you think will happen in the next book?
I dont want Dumbledore to be dead..  I cried when I read that part! | 
04-24-2006, 05:02 AM
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| | | i think snape is pretending to be evil and he pretended to kill dumbledore so that dumbledore is free to wander about the earth and help kill evil!!
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04-25-2006, 02:26 AM
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| | | thats how I want it to be aswell. noone really knows WHY dumbledore truster snape so much. | 
04-25-2006, 03:29 AM
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| | | i just want the next book to be out. i dont give a shit how it turns out. pondering is a waste of time. feed it to me! | 
04-25-2006, 05:48 AM
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| | | i refuse to believe snape killed dumbledore because he's evil.
i think that if dumbledore is for real dead (& i'm willing to accept that's the case), snape was acting on direct orders from dumbledore.
perhaps because then he could infiltrate the 'other side' more affectively, gain their full trust or something.
but who even knows? not i.
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04-25-2006, 05:59 AM
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| | | As much as I disliked Snape, I'd also like to believe that he did not kill Dumbledore because he is evil.
At the same time, Dumbledore was very concerned with keeping the Order together. He was very concerned with the magical community trusting each other because in order to defeat Voldemort they're going to have to stick together. How can having Snape kill him help this? Because he was so secretive with why he trusted Snape (there are some reasons he said, I guess) no one that we know of knows why Dumbledore trusted him so completely. If Snape is working within Voldemort's circle how can he relay this back to the rest of the group? Is Harry going to ever trust him? Is this going to become a Snape and Harry vs Voldemort battle?
Don't know. | 
04-25-2006, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by petals i think that if dumbledore is for real dead... snape was acting on direct orders from dumbledore. | I think that's what their argument was about - at some point in book 6, doesn't Hagrid tell Harry he heard Snape and Dumbledore arguing and Snape saying that he didn't want to do something, while Dumbledore was telling him he had to?
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04-25-2006, 09:15 AM
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| | argh i am dying for the last book 
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04-25-2006, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mother Greer argh i am dying for the last book  | me too. | 
04-25-2006, 01:09 PM
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| | it seem s that we all are on the same track about the death of Dumbledore.
I cant wait to find out what made Dumbledore trust Snape so much.
Does anyone know when the next book will be out?
You guys are so lucky.. I have to wait even longer since I collect the swedish edition.  | 
04-25-2006, 06:25 PM
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| | | Dumbledore must have had a good reason to trust Snape, and I'm sure Dumbledore wouldn't be wrong about whether or not to trust Snape. In addition, Snape never tried to kill Harry either even when Harry started going after him. | 
04-26-2006, 12:09 AM
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| | | snape is cooler than any other character in those books. it is clear he's gonna have a BIG role in the finale. | 
04-27-2006, 06:00 AM
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| | | dumbledore is dead
snape is good- I think he took one of those unbreakable vows to kill dumbledore
and that's why when he had a chance to zap harry when the death eaters
were leaving hogwarts he never hurt harry with his spell...
I think snape also did an unbreakable oath with dumbledore to NOT kill harry
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04-29-2006, 07:15 PM
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| | | Harry's a horcrux!! | 
04-29-2006, 11:32 PM
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| | | I think its a con.
She wouldnt kill him off for Good, I think Dumbledoor is "playing" dead so that Voldermort will think hes all mightly and powerful then WHAM BAM THANK YOU MA'AM Dumbledoor comes out of no where and kills Voldermort. | 
04-29-2006, 11:45 PM
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| | | I think he's dead. It's the right part of the story for Death of A Mentor. I don't know if there was an(other) unbreakable vow involved, but I believe that is what Dumbledore and Snape were arguing about, and that he did it because it was what Dumbledore wanted, and I also think it's highly possible that Dumbledore was dying already. Either way, I think he was pleading with Snape to kill him. It appears to me that no one left in the Order knows this, or that Snape is still on their side, so whatever he's got left to do, he's entirely on his own, certainly no longer a spy at least in terms of bringing information, and I don't see him making it out alive through the next book. I have no idea where he might be taking Draco, since I assume Draco's life is forfeit in Voldemort's camp. I like to think that he wants to save Draco, but that could go either way.
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04-30-2006, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildwoman I think he's dead. It's the right part of the story for Death of A Mentor. I don't know if there was an(other) unbreakable vow involved, but I believe that is what Dumbledore and Snape were arguing about, and that he did it because it was what Dumbledore wanted, and I also think it's highly possible that Dumbledore was dying already. Either way, I think he was pleading with Snape to kill him. It appears to me that no one left in the Order knows this, or that Snape is still on their side, so whatever he's got left to do, he's entirely on his own, certainly no longer a spy at least in terms of bringing information, and I don't see him making it out alive through the next book. I have no idea where he might be taking Draco, since I assume Draco's life is forfeit in Voldemort's camp. I like to think that he wants to save Draco, but that could go either way. | I'm also leaning towards no one else knowing about this agreement betweeen Dumbledore and Snape. Hagrid might possibly know. Dumbledore trusted him the best out of anyone.
Working against Voldemort will end up killing Snape, I agree. He'll end up helping Harry in a HUGE way, why else build so much conflict and bitterness around that relationship if there isn't going to be some sort of resolution? It'd be a waste of energy of exploring Snape's character so thoroughly.
It's going to be tough to see the Order possibly turning against Snape and possibly looking for him to make him pay.
I hope they spend at least SOME time at Hogwarts. | 
04-30-2006, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Zindy Do you think Snape is really evil? And do you think Dumbledore is really dead?
What do you think will happen in the next book?
I dont want Dumbledore to be dead..  I cried when I read that part! | it's sad, yes (I cried aswell...)
But...
I really like Rowlings developement from "black and white" (=good and bad) "characters" to characters where you didn't know whether they were good or bad, or characters that had good or bad sides to them. It makes the books more interesting.
Take Malfoy for example: I really liked how his character devloped (or was developed) in the last book. I actually felt really sorry for him. Having been a little fan of Harry/Malfoy slash fanfics (I read some a while ago) I felt like Rowling was going in a similar direction w/Malfoy as the writers of the fanfics did: portraying him no longer as just another evil bully, some sort of cliche, but as a victim of his environment and therefore as a "real" character.
For this reason I would hate it even more if it turned out that dumbledore was not really dead. That would make the whole thing so "childish", like a fairytale in which everything ends well. It would be a step back in the quality of the story.
Of course I want to see voldemort defeated but I think it's better if there are victims, it's more realistic.
I also don't think Snape is evil. And I think he will help Harry a lot during the next book. Whether with little favours throught the story or with one big favour in the end I don't know (I'm thinking/hoping the latter)
btw: has anyone else been wondering who the person that stole the horcrux is?
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04-30-2006, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Zindy Does anyone know when the next book will be out? | I heard a rumor that since it's the 7th book, it'll come out 07/07/07.  | 
05-01-2006, 09:11 PM
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| | | I so wanted Snape to be evil, and I hope he really is. His character has always annoyed the crap out of me, and there was no way he would turn out to just be a hostile guy.
I'm only wondering about whether or not Harry will return to Hogwarts. | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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