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05-02-2006, 02:18 AM
|  | necessary evil | | Join Date: Apr 2006
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| | | it is funny how in early interviews jo said she hated snape, now she says he is her favorite character.
he has developed into something multifaceted, and i kinda think the fact she got to see her ideas fleshed out in movies while still writing the series helped. once she saw alan rickman strutting around as snape, how could she not be swayed to make him more interesting?
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05-02-2006, 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JimmyZero it is funny how in early interviews jo said she hated snape, now she says he is her favorite character.
he has developed into something multifaceted, and i kinda think the fact she got to see her ideas fleshed out in movies while still writing the series helped. once she saw alan rockman strutting around as snape, how could she not be swayed to make him more interesting? | I am not trying to be rude, but could you link the JKR interview during which she claimed to have hated Snape?
Dumbledore trusted Snape implicitly. This is confirmed after Dumbledore's death by McGonagall when she said, "[Dumbledore] always hinted that he had an ironclad reason for trusting of Snape..."
I can only surmise an Unbreakable Vow between Snape and Dumbledore. Snape would be much more valuable to Voldemort (and as a double-agent of the Order of The Phoenix) as being the one to eliminate the only Wizard that struck fear in to Voldemort (Dumbledore). I think that, ultimately, Harry will be more powerful, as he is driven by love.
Sappy, isn't it?
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05-02-2006, 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyy I am not trying to be rude, but could you link the JKR interview during which she claimed to have hated Snape? | no, i can't. i heard it on the radio, and as up until now i haven't had a soundcard...anyway, now as you know it is a audio interview, perhaps you would know where to look.
it WAS an early one. a bit after the first book, i'd say... | 
05-02-2006, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by livoline btw: has anyone else been wondering who the person that stole the horcrux is? |
My Friend thinks she figured it out.
The note is signed R. A.B.
In the fifth book, when they are at Sirius's house they are looking at the various people in the Black family page 103 and 104.
Regulus Black. Killed by a some deatheater or Voldemort, Sirius believes that he wasn't important enough and talks about how Regulus wanted out.
So far thats the only possible explaination that we know of. And I dont know if they mention Regulus middle name in another part of the book and it starts with an A we found a winner. | 
05-02-2006, 08:21 PM
|  | Hatchet Harry | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: scotland
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| | | what about the rest of the Horcruxes?
where do you think they are? was the Gryffindor sword not supposed to be one?
how many was there again?
i've gotta reread it again.... | 
05-03-2006, 01:02 AM
|  | Material Girl | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: scandinavia
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| | | me too... I forgot about them.. better start reading again...
Do you think the films does the book justice? I must say I do, I do prefer reading the books, but the films are really good too.. | 
05-04-2006, 10:13 AM
|  | between fact & breakfast | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany
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Originally Posted by Kurdt_Kobain My Friend thinks she figured it out.
The note is signed R. A.B.
In the fifth book, when they are at Sirius's house they are looking at the various people in the Black family page 103 and 104.
Regulus Black. Killed by a some deatheater or Voldemort, Sirius believes that he wasn't important enough and talks about how Regulus wanted out.
So far thats the only possible explaination that we know of. And I dont know if they mention Regulus middle name in another part of the book and it starts with an A we found a winner. | I've come so far aswell (all by myself - or, with a little help from my sis, to be honest.) I just wasn't sure about the abbreviation (R.A.B.) and was too lazy to check it (...yeah, that's me...). Interesting that I am not the only one.
I think this is highly possible because I don't think she will invent a totally new character for something important as that but take someone we have at least heard of.
can't wait for the new book!
someone asked about the movies:
honestly I think they are crap. really. They don't do the books justice.
I hate how they never stick to the descriptions in the book and kinda do their own thing. why make a movie out of a book then??? if you want to "invent" your own things, write a fucking skript with your own story.
sorry, but things like that make me mad...I understand that they can't copy the book 100% due to technical abilities and length...but change huge parts of the story? change the castle after the 3rd movie? wtf???? | 
05-04-2006, 01:48 PM
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| | | I like the movies, but I do prefer reading the books. | 
05-05-2006, 07:08 AM
|  | admire the distance | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: UK
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| | I'm pretty sure Dumbledores dead. I think Snape had to kill him and they'd agreed beforehand that this had to be done. I suppose for Snape to be trusted by Voldemort. And thats why it comes across as though Dumbledores begging Snape not to kill him, but is actually begging him too! I can't imagine Dumbledore begging for death.
I need to go re-read the book. I cant believe its almost been a year since it came out, i remember finishing it and not knowing how i would be able to wait for the next book!!
I prefer the books, the films are good. They get better with each other and you realise how the early films are quite poor incomparison. Though the last film i didnt enjoy so much. I loved PoA  | 
05-05-2006, 08:40 AM
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| | I couldnt be bothered to read this whole thread but I just wanted to respond.
I think Snape is definatly evil and always has been. I think the hate that he had for James Potter as a boy at Hogwarts made Snape be "evil". He probbaly didnt want to believe in anything James Potter believed was right because of the hate he had for him. The reason why Dumbledore trusted Snape so much is because Snape was an accomplished occlumens therefore he was able to control his thoughts so Dumbledore didnt know he was "evil".
but thats just my theory... I wish Dumbledore didnt die  and I wish that Sirius didnt die either. Sirius was my ablsolute favourate character! Its too bad he was only in 3 of the books. | 
05-05-2006, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by halfangel I wish Dumbledore didnt die  and I wish that Sirius didnt die either. Sirius was my ablsolute favourate character! Its too bad he was only in 3 of the books. | Same  I cried so much when Dumbledore did that my eyes were blinded and i couldnt read! I've always hoped Sirius would come back, because we never actually saw him die, we just presume so.. He escapes Azkaban and then dies like that? It never seemed right!! | 
05-15-2006, 12:27 PM
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| | | omgzzz
I have to reread the entire series before book 7 comes out!
and make notes
I forget so many little details!
I remember there were suspicions from kittyradioers that a relative of Sirius is somehow connected to something? Anyone wanna remind me what the hell is going on there? ..something to do with the initials...r.a.b?
and holy crap I am still shocked about harry and ginny and the fact that every page of the last novel mentioned "snogging". it's like j.k. rowling was making up for the innocence of the last novels. | 
05-15-2006, 12:28 PM
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| | snape is a BASTARD. And i fear that dummmmmbbbbledoooor is truly dead  | 
05-15-2006, 12:34 PM
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| | | nvm. to my question about r.a.b.
I just read the entire thread and it was answered.
can someone tell me what happened with malfoy in this novel?
Wasn't he fighting on the side of the Death Eaters?
I recall that he was...did his parents die or something? how was he made more complicated and not just "some evil bully" by the last book?
p.s. The movies piss me off so much! My bestfriend has seen most of the movies, and refuses to read the books cus they're too "mainstream" but I'm trying to force her to read them because I know she will end up really liking them if she does. | 
05-15-2006, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PrincessTrae nvm. to my question about r.a.b.
I just read the entire thread and it was answered.
can someone tell me what happened with malfoy in this novel?
Wasn't he fighting on the side of the Death Eaters?
I recall that he was...did his parents die or something? how was he made more complicated and not just "some evil bully" by the last book?
p.s. The movies piss me off so much! My bestfriend has seen most of the movies, and refuses to read the books cus they're too "mainstream" but I'm trying to force her to read them because I know she will end up really liking them if she does. | he was made more complicated cause he got the task to kill dumbledore from voldemort. harry actually saw him crying cause the task was too much for malfoy and it is always described how malfoy looked pale. to me that makes him more complicated because I receive him as a person, as a real person and I caught myself feeling sorry for him! and I hoped that he would not get killed by voldemort and stuff like that!
edit: I have to say something about that comment your friend made regarding the movies:
she says the books are too mainstream? but she watches the movies? to me the movies are even more mainstream than the book and therefore, no offense to your friend, her reasoning doesn't make sense to me, at least not in the way you put it in these 2 sentences in your post.
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05-16-2006, 08:15 AM
|  | no lust in this coma | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Edinburgh
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Originally Posted by nogginthenog what about the rest of the Horcruxes?
where do you think they are? was the Gryffindor sword not supposed to be one?
how many was there again?
i've gotta reread it again.... | I'm going to have to reread too. My suspicion, although I couldn't fully explain it, and most people disagreed with me, was that Harry's scar is a horcrux.
I can't really remember why I thought this would be the case, and people have pointed out a lot of flaws in this idea, but I think it's the kind of thing JKR would do: it would mean Harry would have to die for Voldemort to be defeated. And she often makes reference to how his scar is going to prove important in later books, and other than it hurting him from time to time, nothing too important has been said about it.
Do you remember before the last book, I think, JKR said that there were a few questions she'd never been asked that would actually give away the whole thing? She said one was about Lily, and one was about the scar... It's not a very well thought out theory, but I have a sneaking suspicion that it's the case.
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05-16-2006, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ella luciana I'm going to have to reread too. My suspicion, although I couldn't fully explain it, and most people disagreed with me, was that Harry's scar is a horcrux.
I can't really remember why I thought this would be the case, and people have pointed out a lot of flaws in this idea, but I think it's the kind of thing JKR would do: it would mean Harry would have to die for Voldemort to be defeated. And she often makes reference to how his scar is going to prove important in later books, and other than it hurting him from time to time, nothing too important has been said about it.
Do you remember before the last book, I think, JKR said that there were a few questions she'd never been asked that would actually give away the whole thing? She said one was about Lily, and one was about the scar... It's not a very well thought out theory, but I have a sneaking suspicion that it's the case. | I too think that harry is the final Horcurx. I would not limit it on the scar...I think it's the whole harry.
And I also would like to see harry die to defeat voldemort. don't know why though. not that I dislike harry or anything, I just think it would be a good ending. | 
05-16-2006, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by livoline I too think that harry is the final Horcurx. I would not limit it on the scar...I think it's the whole harry.
And I also would like to see harry die to defeat voldemort. don't know why though. not that I dislike harry or anything, I just think it would be a good ending. | Yeah, I just think it's the type of thing she'd write - controversy for the kids!
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05-17-2006, 04:50 AM
|  | admire the distance | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: UK
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| | | If thats true about Harry, then why does Voldemorte want to kill him? Does he not realise that Harry is the final Horcurx? | 
05-17-2006, 06:40 AM
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