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02-14-2007, 10:14 PM
|  | fresh outta rehab | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: and all the stars looked just like little fish
Posts: 3,343
| | | do you want children? 1. I am living alone peacefully as I always feel it is
not right to have children because there are
continuance of sufferings somewhere in a human body
because human body is not perfect. Also If I count all
pains that are including serious accidents like auto
accidents or hands get cut by kitchen knifes, etc.,
all over the world. The number of extreme pains could
be countless which are constantly 24 hours for years
because of by chance with about six billions people.
By counting all the pains, if I decide to have a child
then that mean it is good as if I torture my child
with extreme pain 24 hours for years. For example, I
said that every inch of my body is in an extreme pain
which feel like broken bones which last 24 hours for
years without stop which is never heard of but it is
true by visualizing the total of unstoppable serious
pains over the world. Why should I add more people on
earth? If I add them then the accidents and the
sufferings of human body because of not perfect human
body will be added as well? Someone may ask, must I
avoid all pains? Well, a painful experience can be
okay as long as you hurt yourself only by marathon (in
a sport), hit yourself by hands or anything else
because its your own body but hurting other people is
not a good idea.
That is why I went to the Planned Parenthood to have
my private parts tied too early because just in case I
may change my mind and want a baby. Parents may say
and look at our children and they want to be alive. I
think understand that but when in the past before
their children were born there is no proof that they
want to be born because they are not here yet. I think
average person's body can feel about 60 percents of
pain and 40 percents of pleasure because if you are
honest with yourself then you may notice that there is
usually more pain than pleasure in your body. If you
want to have a child then you may expect a child to
feel around 60 percents of pain and 40 percents of
pleasure therefore you may feel responsibility for
causing that 60 percents of pain in a child. Someone
may say if I want to live along with that 60 percents
of pain therefore I bet that my child will think that
way too. But I think that person should to keep it to
herself and not put it on a child to think that way.
What if a person has 99 percents of pain and 1 percent
of pleasure then will it still be okay to have a baby
with 99 percents of pain ? I think it is wrong to have
baby as long as there is pain. If there is no pain
therefore people can have right to have a baby. I
don't think there is at least a couple on earth that
don't feel pain therefore all people on earth have no
right to have a baby.
Let me make up a fake story so you will understand
better, if a person has supernatural power then that
person see a rock on road and say to herself that rock
must be feeling numb because it is a dead thing so she
decide to use her supernatural power to change 100
percents of numbness to 60 percents of pain and 40
percents of pleasure. Therefore now the rock no longer
feeling numb but both pain and pleasure and that rock
seems is not happy anymore because being numbness is
far better off than feel a pain and a pleasure. For
small or big pain can ruin everything. It is very
important to leave that rock alone. It is same with
baby, before a baby was born, that baby probably was
feeling numb because it may came from soil (or so
called foods). For soil may feel numbness which is far
more peaceful than feeling pain and pleasure same
time. 2.
Someone may ask, do you mean having a baby is worst
than being a murder or animal abuser or even all other
criminal activies. I would say yes because there is no
pain without a child. I can't think of any pain that
is greater than baby because with my reasons a baby
can be up to 75 years old therefore it is 75 years of
painful while other crime activities are mostly
overnight,not only 75 years of painful because from
two(male and female) babies can produce millions or
even billions of people in the future. When I want to
bring a child then my conscience may tell me its wrong
to do that because it may tell me that I should know
better only hurt myself by marathon or anything else
but not produce a pain in someone else.Hurting
yourself is better than hurting other people although
I don't recommend you to do that. Having a child is
good as if I am hurting other people. Someone may say
but my conscience seems tell me I have right to
produce a baby. Well, her good conscience can get more
weaker if "she keep counting how many people are in
the world " I mean being a copycat can be dangerous. I
can give you more or a better example, a person can
say my conscience seems tell me I have right to kill
some ants or insects with Raid because it is approved
by government but in reality it is murderous which is
in same degree as killing people. Other example, any
person can say my conscience seems tell me I have
right to have a baby because of sperm or egg but in
reality you can't say its OK to kill because of Raid
likewise you can't say its OK because of sperm. Having
a sperm nor Raid does not mean its a right thing to
do. I am telling the truth that a human body is very
ill like aids or any disease that cause pain
constantly because I have never heard anyone living
without pain either in small or big. Someone may say I
made it looks like I am depressed. Well, I am not
talking about depression but a natural unavoidable
pain. Even every newly born baby in a hospital can
feel pain because a flesh is not perfect.Some people
may say that having a child is the most beautiful
thing in the world. I think I know why they say that
because in reality, it is the most painful in the
world therefore they have to cover it up by saying its
most wonderful thing to do. It's a confusion statement
to call good evil and call evil good.
3. I always wish that there are no laws about clothes,
school, death sentence and even with insects or
animals as pest control, drugs and liquors but I don't
use them, etc. I may continue to eat any kind of foods
but it is better to eat only fishes because I am sure
that all fishes allow me eat them as they eat some
smaller fishes too as sharing in the food chain. If I
eat a cow then it may not be fair because a cow may
not eat an animal but hay from the farmers. That is
why cows may boycott against us and tell us that they
are not participate in the food chains of killing each
others like a boxing game. Sometime I still eat meat
but I don't kill them myself but for the best interest
someday I must learn to not to eat cows so farmers
cannot kill cows for money. 4.
Some people may say it is OK to eat plants but not
animals but in my opinion it may not okay to eat
plants because they can be living beings If you have
to eat plant, I suggest you to eat a "fly plant " have
you heard that plant has a trap leaf to catch flies?
5. You may notice that I keep saying about right and
wrong but in my opinion there is no such as a sin
because I think if everything we do wrong is basically
from some deformed (pains or numbs) brains like mental
illness. There are no such as any wrong doings without
mental illness. The sin can't exist because a pain
can't say I want more pain because it is natural for
the pain to say I want no pain but pleasure only. If a
person want to do a bad thing in his thinking but it
is still natural for that bad to say no I don't want
more bad but only good. All bad may always connect
with pains or numbs or not enough of pleasure that
don't want more of itself. Someone may say but some
people may even have pleasure in torturing animals or
people. Well, I think a pleasure of torturing in these
people is still insufficient which it may still need
more pleasure. For example, a small weak pleasure may
still need more to be full and perfect pleasure, like
there are degrees of pain which some pain can be weak
or strong. An insufficient pleasure (weak pleasure but
without numbs or pains) is still not perfect. If a
person with 100 percents of pleasure, therefore there
is no complaining within that person which he or she
can say who can bother me further. I have not seen a
person with full pleasure (no pains or numbs) but it
could happen to anyone. Things can be looked like
sinful but in reality they are just a mental illness
(pains, numbs or small insufficient pleasure) That is
why people who hurt themselves by hurting others can't
be called the sinners but just mental illness people.
Therefore all criminals over the world are innocents
as mental illness people. I think I can understand
that but I don't try to do it wrong and take an
advantage of it as an innocent mental illness person
myself.
6. I am not a creationist or evolutionist because all
colors are individuals. They can't be changed into
another colors or disappeared. There is not even one
color missing in the universe. What I can feel in my
body is always the same one color because it can't get
into all other colors to feel many different colors.
For one color can only feel its own color. All
different colors are separable feelings. For example
there is a color of white and blue next to each other
and at the edge of white which is next to blue still
has no way to be blue because at the edge is still
white. For white is white. Therefore I am always the
same one color from everlasting to everlasting. How
can I the one color evolved or created from God or
apes or smaller animals or plants that already have
their own one color? There may be some look like
evolved or created things here from past to present
but one color is the only answer to me. 7.
Some people may think they are more than one color
because they may say they can see the many colors. But
in reality they may just see the colors from their
standpoint of one color. For an example if I am one
color as blue and I can see many colors but it doesn't
mean I am many colors. It means that I am blue as from
end of blue border line which I am able to see many
colors while I am still blue.
8. Some people may have hard time to understand that I
said that we can't be all colors but one color because
they may looked at their bodies and saw many colors
like red by blood, white by bone, etc. therefore they
may think they are more than one color. I just called
the many colors the foods which are not the real me
because I strong believe that I can't become the foods
that I ate as I am stuck with one color myself
forever. In my other paragraph from my website, I
explain more about one color, how it functions with
the foods and where it come from. I consider foods
as visible and one color as invisible(hidden).
It is mysterious but we can learn more
about it as long as we are honest and open to all
ideas.
If you want to read more about one color and deep
issues about life then please go to a free web site
which is w9ww.9free9webs.co9m/one9color There are many
numbers of 9 within this link so please copy it and
paste it then remove the 9 because a full link wont
work here.
I want to add more before you go to my web site, in
beginning there were imperfect shapes within one color
but enough of many different shapes which they were
enabled to exist as wisdom then moved from imperfect
shapes into perfect shapes to be a person. this is my
best and positive theory which can be true because if
I start with something like blank or no shapes in the
beginning therefore there will be no life. From my
understanding some scientists may think everything
cames from a big bang in the beginning but to me it is
nonsense theory because how can it cause a big bang if
everything was in non motion ? I think everything was
non motion because of friction. As all things may
can't move forever because of friction unless there is
a life within one color which is called wisdom to
start with , not with big bang as it is non existence
to me. For non existence means non motion, nothing
more. Some scientists may say in the beginning
everything was in motion but non existence but they
have to think twice that law of friction which
everything can't be in motion forever therefore
everything in the beginning must be non motion. I must
be thankful that there was enough of different shapes
as wisdom which enables me to live to overcome that
non motion otherwise I may not know how to move from
non motion to motion in the beginning. What is why to
me a big bang theory is impossible because I believe
in the beginning everything was in non motion as it
is. Now I am talking about all colors which thay are
always here until today and forever because there is
no such as changing or disappearing colors as I don't
believe in magic but only tricky. For example if there
are 500 trillions of different colors in the universe
right now therefore it is always the same 500
trillions of colors in the beginning and also in the
future. There are no such as 500 trillions of colors
then later to 499 trillions of colors. For colors are
colors. Since there are numbered of colors therefore
there must be a end of universe to other end of
universe which you can not go any further. I don't
believe in a endless universe which it is nonsense
because it means without number of colors. It can't be
true because since colors are numbered. Everything was
in non motion but later except for those one colors
which have plenty of different shapes within one color
themselves which has more opportunity to exist as
wisdom to know how to move from non motion to motion. | 
02-14-2007, 10:16 PM
|  | queen of hate. | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Beverly Hills, CA
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| | | shut the fuck up. | 
02-14-2007, 10:22 PM
|  | Because I was hungry... | | Join Date: Apr 2006
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| | | Someone forgot to take their Lamictal today. | 
02-14-2007, 10:24 PM
| | Certifiable. | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Baltimore
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| | | to feed on. | 
02-14-2007, 10:39 PM
|  | AWAY!!! On Vacation! | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northern California
Posts: 4,220
| | | It seems to me raising a child on my own would be down right miserable and I'm already lonely enough. No, too much work. | 
02-14-2007, 10:41 PM
|  | nowurshitmakesnosensefkr | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 2,462
| | i'd get some children, but i'm afraid they'd turn out like Starfish:  | 
02-14-2007, 10:44 PM
|  | a.k.a Madge Spammer | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Panama
Posts: 8,223
| | | yes, I do want to have children but ONLY if I'm rich. Otherwise I won't have them. I hate working, I hate being middle class and I hate being dependant on money and I don't want my children to be dependant on money. I want them to be economically free so that they can do what they want and not loose time in a fucking office job, wasting their lives.
That is a big thing, but what I really really want for my children is health. I want them to be healthy, beautiful and RICH.
Also, they all have to be adopted. We are waaayy in over our head, the world is over populated, we don't need another soul to be born into this horrifying world, so I'm going to pick souls that already are here, and I'm going to give them a good life. Well assuming that I become rich. If I don't, then I guess I wont have children.
Oh and I would have to have a man to co adopt them with. | 
02-14-2007, 10:51 PM
|  | gonna give it 35% | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: noodlebox
Posts: 3,906
| | | so i read the first couple of paragraphs.... sorry for not reading the WHOLE thing. i've got maternal instinct like crazy, if i never get married i dont care, as long as i have kids.
i dont feel 60% pain... what the fuck are you on about, you keep yourself safe and fit and healthy, get a strong character then ALL is good, pain becomes character building.
my kids are going to have storng charachters.
yeah the world is fucked, really fucked, i'm going to say almost irreversibaly fucked it's scary wanting to bring kids into it, but instead of throwing in the towell wouldn't it be better to try and improve the prospective future? i don't know, i think all this greenhouse stuff can be combatted we just need to get our shit in line.
i'm just justifying a bit here, because i'm being a bit of a hypocrit, but i think giving in and intentionally stunting procreation is a bit of a farce, it seems... weak.
but i know where you're coming from.......
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02-14-2007, 10:54 PM
|  | free hugs | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 'states
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| | | yes, but only if i make enough money to give them good lives. | 
02-14-2007, 11:27 PM
|  | feministsforlife.org | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In My Tanooki Suit
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| | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Mecklenburg-Strelitz shut the fuck up. | agreed
__________________ getting tired of the collective orgasm at the public declaration of the word "change" Dr. Nathanson | 
02-14-2007, 11:38 PM
|  | Cavalera Conspiracy! | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Niebleheim
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| | i would like to have children, i think ill be a great father  but no more than 2 jajajajaja | 
02-14-2007, 11:39 PM
|  | I'm the hot one. | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Dying 100 times
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| | | i'd rather get aids | 
12-19-2007, 03:49 AM
| | Registered Member | | Join Date: Dec 2007
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| | | Starfish are you around? You are a wonderful writer! Check out this link for a really good documentary Earthlings | 
12-19-2007, 04:25 AM
|  | I'm the hot one. | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Dying 100 times
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruth Price i'd rather get aids | lol | 
12-19-2007, 04:31 AM
|  | fizzy lifting drinks | | Join Date: Jan 2007
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by looking4u You are a wonderful writer! Check out this link for a really good documentary Earthlings | you bumped this thread to say that? be gone. | 
12-19-2007, 09:39 AM
|  | awesome like a possum | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 134
| | | I'm totally not going to read all that. But did you really get your tubes tied? How much did it cost, if you don't mind me asking? I'd like to get it done, but I hear it's horrifically expensive. I take my pills religiously, but even then there's a slight risk that they won't work... I've had a couple pregnancy scares and even just thinking that it's possible for me to conceive a child makes me ill.
My boyfriend has a kid... the girl he was with swore up and down she was on the pill, then showed up 9 months later with a bun in the oven. He credits her with ruining his life. I spend a lot of time with his daughter and sometimes she's really fun to be around, but I've also learned that kids can really fuck up your plans... want to fuck? The kid's banging on the door demanding a sandwich. Want to sleep in? Kid's hanging over you saying I'M BORED, WHEN ARE YOU GONNA WAKE UP? etc etc etc. | 
12-19-2007, 10:29 AM
|  | worldclass flesh balloons | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: online. looking@porn
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by cricket you bumped this thread to say that? be gone. | Cricket--I LOVE YOU!!!!
Starfish---I am happy about your decision. People like you should not reproduce. I recommend adoption though. | 
12-19-2007, 10:50 AM
| | don't call me Liz | | Join Date: Dec 2007
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by HighClassHo yes, I do want to have children but ONLY if I'm rich. Otherwise I won't have them. I hate working, I hate being middle class and I hate being dependant on money and I don't want my children to be dependant on money. I want them to be economically free so that they can do what they want and not loose time in a fucking office job, wasting their lives.
That is a big thing, but what I really really want for my children is health. I want them to be healthy, beautiful and RICH.
Also, they all have to be adopted. We are waaayy in over our head, the world is over populated, we don't need another soul to be born into this horrifying world, so I'm going to pick souls that already are here, and I'm going to give them a good life. Well assuming that I become rich. If I don't, then I guess I wont have children.
Oh and I would have to have a man to co adopt them with. | omg I sound so bitter. | |