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Old 07-08-2007, 02:03 PM
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Writing songs is so HARD

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Writing is ridiculously tough. I don't know if it's just me. I tend not to have too much trouble in the lyrics department (I wont say they're good, but they're THERE at least) but trying to put music to that shit is just really hard. And then there are times when I come up with a okay chord sequence and get a great melody going to it. Melody is the only thing that comes fairly naturally to me, if I have some music to guide it, but then I just can't find the words to put to it. And as I say, I can come up with words but trying to give those words a melody is just rough. It's like I've got all the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle but they refuse to fit together. Is anyone else like this? Share your pain, pls.

I know we have a bunch of great songwriters here on KR. Do you guys find the whole thing comes naturally to you, or do you have to really push yourself to find that lyric or that melody or whatever? Do you think you have strong points and weak points in the whole process. I mean, I know overthinking this shit just robs the whole songwriting thing of its natural beauty or whateverthefuck, but maybe I'm not the only one like this?
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Old 07-08-2007, 06:02 PM
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I'm not sure if I'm one of the great KR songwriters or anything. haha! But I usually write the music before I write the lyrics. It's easier to write lyrics to music than the other way round because the mood of the song has been set by the music then.
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Old 07-08-2007, 06:42 PM
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sonwritting comes totaly natual and relaxed and enjoyable to me. Chris cornell said some quote about not judging a song until its completly finished. I never write lyrics and then write the guitar part. guitar is my number 1 instrument so I normaly will come up with the guitar part then mumble some melodys or Ill sit wsith my guitar playing the chord progression and try to write the lyrics just as im playing.
I like to rap as well. I'm always comparing myself to snoop dogg at least in the need to get stoned to rap something.
Latley I havent written anything, its hard to write when you really don have anything to inspire you. I need inspiration. I'm also real picky about lyrics I wont sing anything stupid or nickelback like ryhming. Im very professional about that.
please post some lyrics. please
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Old 07-08-2007, 06:42 PM
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Do you guys find the whole thing comes naturally to you, or do you have to really push yourself to find that lyric or that melody or whatever?
i have to push with lyrics, mostly. i can sit and write out a melody and chords easily - that feels like it comes naturally - but i'm so picky about lyrics that it takes forever. sometimes they'll flow in bits and pieces, but rarely have i ever had a whole lyric come at once.

i've really learned not to rush or force lyrics because i've seen them get embarrassingly bad.
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its called talent...... RyaNn

but i always write lyrics first then music i play around with riffs alot. i usually think up lyrics on the toilet.
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One whinge thread, no gherkins, comin' up.

Writing is ridiculously tough. I don't know if it's just me. I tend not to have too much trouble in the lyrics department (I wont say they're good, but they're THERE at least) but trying to put music to that shit is just really hard. And then there are times when I come up with a okay chord sequence and get a great melody going to it. Melody is the only thing that comes fairly naturally to me, if I have some music to guide it, but then I just can't find the words to put to it. And as I say, I can come up with words but trying to give those words a melody is just rough. It's like I've got all the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle but they refuse to fit together. Is anyone else like this? Share your pain, pls.

I know we have a bunch of great songwriters here on KR. Do you guys find the whole thing comes naturally to you, or do you have to really push yourself to find that lyric or that melody or whatever? Do you think you have strong points and weak points in the whole process. I mean, I know overthinking this shit just robs the whole songwriting thing of its natural beauty or whateverthefuck, but maybe I'm not the only one like this?
well for me the music writing process can be hard. i find it easy to write a melody or a chord progression first thats decent and i try to perfect it first and later tweak some parts. writing the lyrics for me depends on the melody or the progression. my melodies or rhythms come naturally to me at times but just go with the flow, whatever you feel is good, i mean have fun tis all.
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well tats kinda embarissing. and like I said I havent written anyhting latley really meaning a long long time. I have 2 notebooks full of attempts as songs not 1 of them satisfye me enough to have someone say play a song you wrote, for me. and you cant judge my whole song writting skill just based on me posting lyrics of really an unfinished demo of a song.


my butterfly
my butterfly is in the sky
butterlies fly real high
my butterfly
butterly, has nice skin
butterfly wont you let me in
and so we can begain
butterfly, i'll tear off both you're wings
tear off both you're wings
and i'll rape you're dreams
you'll never see brand new things...butterfly
This is beyond shitty.
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but a beyond shitty joke
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i just fuck around until something sounds good. but my tunes generally dont have any melodies.. or lyrics
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Usually the lyrics come easily to me, and the music is the hard part.
But a few weeks ago, I wrote and recorded this really amazing guitar part onto my 8-track, and now I can't think of lyrics.

I'm really fucking frustrated about it too.
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both seem easy to me and come quick when i have inspiration
and then i can spend weeks without having it again
then i find other things to do
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