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08-16-2008, 02:25 PM
|  | whirling dervisher | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spin me
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| | | Life Is A University All the important lessons were learned in kindergarten. What we do is spend our lives testing the findings........ over and over again until we perfect our character.
"Life is more about the process of learning than about acquiring knowledge"
~~carefulcarpenter
__________________ Marerophilia:
A depth of love that youth can seldom appreciate or communicate;
A love that never can die for it is a wild seed living inside us, and it is what it is; Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown; Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
~~carefulcarpenter | 
08-17-2008, 05:19 AM
|  | Phil Goff | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Westport, New Zealand
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| | | I majored in "Stay away from the cutty grass". I got mostly C's.
__________________ Time is the distance that you can't return by miles.
I escaped somehow. Let's go actualy [sic] I have quite a blessed life if I'm honest. I have many people to love, hate few and have few money problem's [sic].... What more does a person need? Oh yeah and I have some kind of humbleness unlike you of course ^_^ ~ CarefulCarpenter | 
08-17-2008, 11:33 AM
|  | whirling dervisher | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spin me
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| | | "The most valuable knowing cannot be taught; one must participate in life to gain the tacit knowledge"
~~carefulcarpenter
__________________ Marerophilia:
A depth of love that youth can seldom appreciate or communicate;
A love that never can die for it is a wild seed living inside us, and it is what it is; Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown; Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
~~carefulcarpenter | 
08-17-2008, 11:56 AM
|  | be still, cody | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: port-au-patois
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| | | which suggests you might as well shut up
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08-17-2008, 12:07 PM
|  | whirling dervisher | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spin me
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Originally Posted by kesh which suggests you might as well shut up | This is true; but I learn from your responses.
I don't define myself by how others think I should be, but I get a better picture of how they see by what they do and say to me.
"Spiritual teaching is by far the most enlightening learning activity which demands giving of oneself wholey to others while suffering the needs of the ego. Teaching is the greatest gift, and the returns are appreciably unteachable"
~~carefulcarpenter
__________________ Marerophilia:
A depth of love that youth can seldom appreciate or communicate;
A love that never can die for it is a wild seed living inside us, and it is what it is; Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown; Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
~~carefulcarpenter | 
08-17-2008, 12:13 PM
|  | be still, cody | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: port-au-patois
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| | | well, yes. i think the reason your "teachings" on kr suck is just that. they are all for and about yourself really.
__________________ they made soup out of my research turtles. | 
08-17-2008, 12:39 PM
|  | Strafe Guru Narcissists ! | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: On the Redwood Hwy
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| | | Tacit Knowledge of Soph-'s Definition of Himself Is 'mind reading' an extension of the abilities of tacit knowledge in practice ? I've noticed that some people who think they can mind read do not need someone to "do and say" anything to them, in order to get a better picture of how the person sees them. To some people, especially the folks who rely on their narcissistic sensibilities to gauge their self worth, it is all important to get a better picture of how their public sees them by 'learning from their responses'. They primarily define themselves by how people respond to their careful offerings generously and frequently given to solicit the addictive responses (narcissistic supply) needed to plug in to their receptors' gateways to their carefully crafted confabulations of who they want to be--what picture of themselves they desperately need the world to believe in.
The internet is a wonderfully accessible vast ocean to cast their world-wide cyber narcissi-net projects out in to---to trawl for the treasured supply. One can only bring in so much narcissistic supply through their personal audience.
Starting a thread about "Life Is a University", and all the important lessons we learn in Kindergarten, and about tacit knowledge quickly devolves in to Sophy's obsession with how others think of him and how he defines himself. Typical Soph_ stuff---the true purpose of his thread.
__________________ Sophy_'s Motto of His Spousal Invalubility: "My wife does not want to loose [sic] the house--I imagine she would get along fine with out me, for she is an attractive woman who could easily find someone to be her companion. As a man, I do the things for her she can't find in another woman." ~~carefulcarpnetter | 
08-17-2008, 12:53 PM
|  | whirling dervisher | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spin me
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Originally Posted by kesh well, yes. i think the reason your "teachings" on kr suck is just that. they are all for and about yourself really. | Many skeptics argue that altruism is ultimately a selfish act.
__________________ Marerophilia:
A depth of love that youth can seldom appreciate or communicate;
A love that never can die for it is a wild seed living inside us, and it is what it is; Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown; Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
~~carefulcarpenter | 
08-17-2008, 01:01 PM
|  | whirling dervisher | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spin me
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Originally Posted by Rancheria Is 'mind reading' an extension of the abilities of tacit knowledge in practice ? I've noticed that some people who think they can mind read do not need someone to "do and say" anything to them, in order to get a better picture of how the person sees them. To some people, especially the folks who rely on their narcissistic sensibilities to gauge their self worth, it is all important to get a better picture of how their public sees them by 'learning from their responses'. They primarily define themselves by how people respond to their careful offerings generously and frequently given to solicit the addictive responses (narcissistic supply) needed to plug in to their receptors' gateways to their carefully crafted confabulations of who they want to be--what picture of themselves they desperately need the world to believe in.
The internet is a wonderfully accessible vast ocean to cast their world-wide cyber narcissi-net projects out in to---to trawl for the treasured supply. One can only bring in so much narcissistic supply through their personal audience.
Starting a thread about "Life Is a University", and all the important lessons we learn in Kindergarten, and about tacit knowledge quickly devolves in to Sophy's obsession with how others think of him and how he defines himself. Typical Soph_ stuff---the true purpose of his thread. | The true malignancy demands attention and audience; usually finding this while hidden in a group, basking in the security of group admiration, acceptance, and approval. The features which feed the malignancy are: authority, control, security, certainty, envy, group status, power, influence, identity, acceptance, entitlement.
Thanks, if you really see me as "fitting in". I'll need more treatment, then. I could join a club. Malignant narcissism runs rampant in clubs and cults: narcissism/ co-dependendent narcicism feeding off the power hierarchy, both directly and vicariously.
"Credentials are proof and entitlement to authority as an esteemed membership in an exclusive club of enlightened elites, where knowledge has power; religion is a membership in a club of beliefs rather than knowledge; spirituality is the inclusion in a club of oneness and self knowledge--no meetings are necessary, no authority is granted"
~~carefulcarpenter
__________________ Marerophilia:
A depth of love that youth can seldom appreciate or communicate;
A love that never can die for it is a wild seed living inside us, and it is what it is; Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown; Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
~~carefulcarpenter
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08-17-2008, 01:42 PM
|  | whirling dervisher | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spin me
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Originally Posted by Rancheria Is 'mind reading' an extension of the abilities of tacit knowledge in practice ? | This would make a good thread topic. I'm sure many at KR would have a say in it--if they are not too intimidated by social pressure to discuss it openly.
If not for the repeated synchronicity over my lifetime I would say your statement of theory is right on; but too many times I have known things that I should not know; many times there were no visual clues involved or even direct personal contact. Mind reading occurs at a higher psychic energy level than the conscious/rational mind can discern. Ego tends to distract from the true abilities. I've seen many fakers--they're convincing at first. They don't hang around long and they resist transparency.
__________________ Marerophilia:
A depth of love that youth can seldom appreciate or communicate;
A love that never can die for it is a wild seed living inside us, and it is what it is; Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown; Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
~~carefulcarpenter | 
08-17-2008, 02:12 PM
|  | be still, cody | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: port-au-patois
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Originally Posted by Sophia_ Many skeptics argue that altruism is ultimately a selfish act. | yeah. maybe. or that true altruism is unobtainable. but can we get back to what we both love talking about? that is you.
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08-17-2008, 03:01 PM
|  | whirling dervisher | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spin me
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Originally Posted by kesh yeah. maybe. or that true altruism is unobtainable. but can we get back to what we both love talking about? that is you. | "true altruism" ?
Is that the contrary of fake altruism?
__________________ Marerophilia:
A depth of love that youth can seldom appreciate or communicate;
A love that never can die for it is a wild seed living inside us, and it is what it is; Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown; Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
~~carefulcarpenter | 
08-17-2008, 03:10 PM
|  | be still, cody | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: port-au-patois
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| | | you're not really that dumb, sophia, so quit the distraction act
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08-17-2008, 03:22 PM
|  | Job Hand | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: burbs, UK
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| | | Troll. I'm gonna make my own thread. So nanana to you.
__________________ Ezekiel 33:33 Rev 13:16 Lev 11:7 Forums Last FM
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08-17-2008, 04:10 PM
|  | whirling dervisher | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spin me
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Originally Posted by Silvine Troll. I'm gonna make my own thread. So nanana to you. | A ray of truth must have ruptured a hidden and sensitive nerve. Ouch!!
__________________ Marerophilia:
A depth of love that youth can seldom appreciate or communicate;
A love that never can die for it is a wild seed living inside us, and it is what it is; Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown; Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
~~carefulcarpenter | 
08-17-2008, 08:02 PM
|  | whirling dervisher | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spin me
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| | | Three types of wo/men "There are three kinds of learned men: the few who learn by reading; the few more who learn by listening; and then there are those who learn by peeing on an electric fence"
~~Will Rogers American humorist
__________________ Marerophilia:
A depth of love that youth can seldom appreciate or communicate;
A love that never can die for it is a wild seed living inside us, and it is what it is; Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown; Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
~~carefulcarpenter | 
08-19-2008, 08:04 PM
| | Registered Member | | Join Date: May 2007
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Originally Posted by Sophia_ This would make a good thread topic. I'm sure many at KR would have a say in it--if they are not too intimidated by social pressure to discuss it openly.
If not for the repeated synchronicity over my lifetime I would say your statement of theory is right on; but too many times I have known things that I should not know; many times there were no visual clues involved or even direct personal contact. Mind reading occurs at a higher psychic energy level than the conscious/rational mind can discern. Ego tends to distract from the true abilities. I've seen many fakers--they're convincing at first. They don't hang around long and they resist transparency. | Could you please give us an example of an instance when you actually read any mind so as to present one little 'proof' of your higher psychic energy level powers to us ? This would be an interesting contrast to what I've read on KR. There are many many specific examples posted by so many members which show that you generally do not have a clue as to what people were thinking at all. More like---that you mind read the opposite of what people are really thinking. Just my impression from reading most of what you post. I think I'm in the majority with that impression here.
Was your belief of the 'Coffee Emporium' poppies being destroyed, to give a negative message to you to stay away, an example of your mind reading abilities ?? When I read about the poppies eradication paranoid suspicions of yours, I thought to myself: "that reminds me of Humphrey Bogart's character Captain Quig's mind reading in 'The Caine Mutiny".. Are you like Captain Quig? I loved that character of Bogart's !!
He thought he had special divining abilities as well. But he never did find that missing key or who ate the strawberries. Just as you never found out what happened to your beloved poppies. Hmmmmm........ | 
08-20-2008, 12:44 AM
|  | whirling dervisher | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Spin me
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Originally Posted by cypherpunk C Just as you never found out what happened to your beloved poppies. Hmmmmm........ | The last time I was there---they were back! Well, in a wildflower sorta way, anyway.
I can show you empirical evidence of mind reading done by researchers in the scientific community, but the evidence would still be at the mercy of your interpretation and willingness to test the theory yourself; all of which would result in you sticking to a skeptical pov and expecting me to prove to your satisfaction that mind reading is like a scientific theory--predictable or otherwise invalid. If love is God, and you don't experience either on a predictable schedule (like routine sex), then I guess we remain at a standstill.
Ms G., for example, is a valuable friend and advisor in my life, yet from your view all forms of love HAVE to involve sex and suspicion. Wasn't her presence in the Coffee Emporium worthy evidence that I have never consciously lied to women? Truth pays dividends, but is also accompanied with pain. It's not easy to let go of someone, even though you know it is the best thing for them--and the worst thing for you. Then the universe pays you a dividend. Accidentally amputate a few fingers and the universe pays a dividend. Save the lives of a few strangers and the universe pays dividends. Reach out to help the lonely and feel the pain of rejection--then the universe pays you dividends. Help heal the world and become whole yourself-- these are the dividen | |