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Old 05-10-2008, 08:16 PM
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kesh -- you're a wildman!
wildflower. Please.

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Old 05-10-2008, 08:45 PM
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:06 PM
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I am confused are you haveing a conversation with yourself.. Or justifying your position.

Personally I just leave women alone till they get to know me. And they are willing to speak about what is going on with them.. I don't just start contoversial conversations with people who I hardly know. And don't expect people to do that with me. Sometimes getting to know and trust people takes time.

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I talked with a random woman today at the Coffee Emporium. She was sitting by the window next to my table. She was watching as a woman was trying to work "Taco's" baby stroller and could figure out how the big red button would release the mechanism. We both watched. She turned and commented to me that she was tempted to go out and help. I recognized her for having empathy--I said to her that I, too, had thought about going outside to assist the woman. We then started a wonderful conversation.

At one point she told me that I had started her to think about the philosophical points which I had mentioned. Specifically, a couple that Rancheria had brought up in regards to some people's weak ethical stances. I then told her that I would again get in trouble as people overheard me talking to her. She exclaimed, "What! For having a nice conversation about touchy subjects?".

I said I had been admonished many times for randomly starting a conversation with strangers. She opened up and we found this was a common trait we shared. She had been having similar problems in Berkeley when she and her boyfriend would hear cries in the middle of the night and actually do something about it by calling the police. She said they started to look at them as kooks because they seemed to Care--where others simply ignored the noise. She went on to comment about living in LA and Albuquerque where they had problems with people who didn't care much for outsiders.

I said that the locals can get a bit testy, but basically they are protecting their own territory. My Wisconsin accent is 33 years blended into Californian, but people comment that they can still hear a slight bit--giving me away as a non-native. Mountain people here can still be weary of Easterners, as Rancheria has pointed out a few times at KR. This lady was from Oakland, Ca., just down for the wedding of a college friend. It was a pleasure to talk philosophy with a woman who can think for herself and express those thoughts without feeling intimidated or bothered by an opinionated old guy.
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:25 PM
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I feel sorry for you.

You see, if you didn't have such a piss-poor view of the capacity of other people, you would view such conversations as being quite normal - uncommon but still normal - rather than 'wonderful'.

Notice, however, that you somehow managed to orientate a conversation about someone else doing something else (notice also, that you did nothing to help) to somehow being about you and what you have undergone.

Pay attention to this problem of yours. Learn to deal with it. Learn to work around it. Learn to live with it.

Most of all, learn to admit to it. You will benefit no end from admiting your egocentricity and narcissim. Admitting it to yourself rather than resorting to your repeated attempts to disparage those that point it out to you will do nothing but give you information to carry your life forward.

Pay attention to what people say you are and you will learn.

The next step is to see if you can do this.

Personally, I don't view you as any different from any other person with a personailty disorder, so I fully expect you to use any means to wiggle you way out of actually having to do anything to change yourself.

Do something. Anything. Anything at all is better than the person you currently are.
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I feel sorry for you.

You see, if you didn't have such a piss-poor view of the capacity of other people, you would view such conversations as being quite normal - uncommon but still normal - rather than 'wonderful'.

Notice, however, that you somehow managed to orientate a conversation about someone else doing something else (notice also, that you did nothing to help) to somehow being about you and what you have undergone.

Pay attention to this problem of yours. Learn to deal with it. Learn to work around it. Learn to live with it.

Most of all, learn to admit to it. You will benefit no end from admiting your egocentricity and narcissim. Admitting it to yourself rather than resorting to your repeated attempts to disparage those that point it out to you will do nothing but give you information to carry your life forward.

Pay attention to what people say you are and you will learn.

The next step is to see if you can do this.

Personally, I don't view you as any different from any other person with a personailty disorder, so I fully expect you to use any means to wiggle you way out of actually having to do anything to change yourself.

Do something. Anything. Anything at all is better than the person you currently are.
So our final point was me teling this woman how important it is to participate in life; not just sit back and think, "What a nice person I am", but to participate in a cause--any cause. Get out and make a difference in your local world. Be a pest if you must! Strike up conversations that provoke people into action.

Remember, Governmento keeps suggesting to me to be quiet in the teahouse.

Thanks Skind.


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