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02-27-2008, 10:00 PM
|  | queen be | | Join Date: Apr 2006
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| | | law of attraction, intention manifestation, "the secret", etc i'm curious if anyone else believes or practices law of attraction or intention manifestation. it's basically the principles of the highly commercialized "the secret" and this subject seems to be experiencing a surge of popularity of late, regardless that the material is nothing new. when i heard about the secret, i was obviously a bit curious, but didn't get far before i realized it was what i always felt was common sense. since then, i have been recommended various books on the subject of law of attraction, namely those of esther hicks and abraham...
i do believe in the subject matter and i think you can/do most definitely attract things into your life mentally whether intentional or not. as for a lot of these books, im not sure what to make of them, i feel like they present the material as being all mystical and new-agey when its really not. for example, the law of attraction book abraham-hicks i could not get through (it was an audiobook actually) because i just kept laughing at the ridiculousness of it all. the woman esther claims that this guy abraham actually channelled into her and all of this information she teaches/sells is not from her, but from abraham.
i guess i believe it's possible, but it just seems like a rather silly way to present the information and i would assume that her way of doing so has turned hundreds if not thousands of people away thinking she was smoking crack.
so i suppose i'm just curious if anyone else believes in and/or practices intention manifestation, law of attraction, etc. and what their experiences have been like. | 
02-27-2008, 10:11 PM
|  | in a strange way, hch > u | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: THAWNG ISLAND
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| | it isnt jewdaddy abe is it?
haha
anyway its an interesting idea and "reality" is so unexplained its a possiblity
i dont actively practice trying to manifest things in my life but i do try not to think bad things basically for reactionary fear of them happening 
but im half crazy so im not trustworthy  | 
02-27-2008, 10:17 PM
|  | C is for Cookie | | Join Date: Jul 2006
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| | | The entire "self help" industry is based on the bastardisation of the original and the best "think and grow rich" by Napolean Hill | 
02-27-2008, 10:23 PM
|  | is maintaining the high | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: l.A.
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| | | i totally believe it. i've read Seth Speaks, channelled by Jane Roberts. it has mental exercises to get in touch with your inner senses.
i must not think bad thoughts. | 
02-27-2008, 10:29 PM
|  | in a strange way, hch > u | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: THAWNG ISLAND
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| | im sometimes convinced the kinda cliche religious end times prophecies
are gonna happen because of me 
i just cant help it  | 
02-27-2008, 10:52 PM
|  | queen be | | Join Date: Apr 2006
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by thumbscrew The entire "self help" industry is based on the bastardisation of the original and the best "think and grow rich" by Napolean Hill | not true at all. the science of being well was written in 1910 by wallace wattles and i doubt even he was the first to come up with the ideas. The Science of Being Well - Google Book Search
these ideas have been around for centuries before books were ever published. like i said, i believed and practiced these ideas before i ever knew what "self-help" was, much less read a book on the subject. i manifested this knowledge simply through observation of the power of my own mind and the effect it had. it is only within the last few years that i have come to recognize there is a huge industry on these beliefs. its interesting to see how various people define their beliefs for others to digest, but i wouldn't agree that the entire industry are copycats of think and grow rich. | 
02-27-2008, 10:56 PM
|  | kitschy minger | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: the medusa cascade
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Originally Posted by brookelyn i'm curious if anyone else believes or practices law of attraction or intention manifestation. it's basically the principles of the highly commercialized "the secret" and this subject seems to be experiencing a surge of popularity of late, regardless that the material is nothing new. when i heard about the secret, i was obviously a bit curious, but didn't get far before i realized it was what i always felt was common sense. since then, i have been recommended various books on the subject of law of attraction, namely those of esther hicks and abraham...
i do believe in the subject matter and i think you can/do most definitely attract things into your life mentally whether intentional or not. as for a lot of these books, im not sure what to make of them, i feel like they present the material as being all mystical and new-agey when its really not. for example, the law of attraction book abraham-hicks i could not get through (it was an audiobook actually) because i just kept laughing at the ridiculousness of it all. the woman esther claims that this guy abraham actually channelled into her and all of this information she teaches/sells is not from her, but from abraham.
i guess i believe it's possible, but it just seems like a rather silly way to present the information and i would assume that her way of doing so has turned hundreds if not thousands of people away thinking she was smoking crack.
so i suppose i'm just curious if anyone else believes in and/or practices intention manifestation, law of attraction, etc. and what their experiences have been like. | i believe it.
it has changed my life. i am not kidding you.
it got me the man i always wanted, thousands of dollars, i'm 19 years old i'm able to buy a house!!
seriously... anything your heart desires can be yours if you know what to do.
forgot to say - esther hicks is amazing
if you are interested in the Secret, I recommend watching the documentary, rather than reading the book. I watched it every day for a month, (which of course you don't need to - you dont need to watch it at all, or read the book, just practice it properly) It has made all the difference in my life.
__________________ dithyrambic does not:
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02-27-2008, 10:56 PM
|  | queen be | | Join Date: Apr 2006
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by *cherry bomb* i totally believe it. i've read Seth Speaks, channelled by Jane Roberts. it has mental exercises to get in touch with your inner senses.
i must not think bad thoughts. | seth speaks is what inspired esther hicks to be able to channel abraham who teaches the law of attraction. i've never read it or seen it and only know of it through her explanation. is it good? i find channeling a bit ridiculous, i don't know why, it just makes me LOL at the absurdity... | 
02-27-2008, 10:56 PM
|  | C is for Cookie | | Join Date: Jul 2006
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Originally Posted by brookelyn not true at all. the science of being well was written in 1910 by wallace wattles and i doubt even he was the first to come up with the ideas. The Science of Being Well - Google Book Search
these ideas have been around for centuries before books were ever published. like i said, i believed and practiced these ideas before i ever knew what "self-help" was, much less read a book on the subject. i manifested this knowledge simply through observation of the power of my own mind and the effect it had. it is only within the last few years that i have come to recognize there is a huge industry on these beliefs. its interesting to see how various people define their beliefs for others to digest, but i wouldn't agree that the entire industry are copycats of think and grow rich. | Sorry, I didn't realise anyone would take me literally, but I do think it is the best of whats available | 
02-27-2008, 10:57 PM
|  | queen be | | Join Date: Apr 2006
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Originally Posted by Dithyrambic i believe it.
it has changed my life. i am not kidding you.
it got me the man i always wanted, thousands of dollars, i'm 19 years old i'm able to buy a house!!
seriously... anything your heart desires can be yours if you know what to do. | what specifically did you do? what inspired you? congrats on having success with it. | 
02-27-2008, 10:58 PM
|  | queen be | | Join Date: Apr 2006
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Originally Posted by thumbscrew Sorry, I didn't realise anyone would take me literally, but I do think it is the best of whats available | it didn't seem apparent that there was any other way to take it? | 
02-27-2008, 11:00 PM
|  | kitschy minger | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: the medusa cascade
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by brookelyn not true at all. the science of being well was written in 1910 by wallace wattles and i doubt even he was the first to come up with the ideas. The Science of Being Well - Google Book Search
these ideas have been around for centuries before books were ever published. like i said, i believed and practiced these ideas before i ever knew what "self-help" was, much less read a book on the subject. i manifested this knowledge simply through observation of the power of my own mind and the effect it had. it is only within the last few years that i have come to recognize there is a huge industry on these beliefs. its interesting to see how various people define their beliefs for others to digest, but i wouldn't agree that the entire industry are copycats of think and grow rich. | whats her face that wrote the book talks about this
she addresses that it has been around for MILLENIA!!! she is just presenting it in a way that is accessible to "EVERYMAN" so to speak
i came across the girl who was just so cheerful ALL the time, (i had JUST starting practicing the secret), and seriously she was in such a good mood all the time, i was like "you're faking right, i mean, nobody can be so good-natured all the time"
and she was like "well, you're going to think this is really stupid, but i practice this thing called the Secret and..."
i was like 
and got a lot more serious about it
i can make my phone ring when i want someone to call
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02-27-2008, 11:05 PM
|  | queen be | | Join Date: Apr 2006
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| | | what are the principles specified in the secret? i mean, how do you practice it specifically? are there steps? like do you do visualizations or only allow positive thoughts? do you meditate? create vision boards? there are so many ways to manifest your intentions, im curious how each person goes about it. | 
02-27-2008, 11:08 PM
|  | kitschy minger | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: the medusa cascade
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Originally Posted by brookelyn what specifically did you do? what inspired you? congrats on having success with it. | you have to WANT something enough - think about it all day long.
when you get up in the morning, every step you take should be full of JOY
you must be grateful for everything!
keep a journal.
what do you want to happen?
start your journal entry:
I am so happy and grateful now that...
fill in the blank. now that you won a million dollars? now that you have a husband? now that you have the house of your dreams? or something as simple as "i got a postcard in the mail from a long-lost friend"!!
i keep a journal, i picture a scene in my mind and write what i want to happen. it's just daydreaming. and NEVER doubt that what you want is coming. IT IS! the universe just KNOWS when the right time is
most important points:
1. be grateful for what you already have, and know that you will be grateful for what is to come
2. never place time constraints because the universe doesn't understand it. what you want is coming, but the universe knows when it is best for you to have it
3. never think about HOW it is coming to you. it doesn't matter. the universe doesn't understand obstacles and doesn't comprehend distance or "impossibilities"
4. don't think in the negative. never say what you DON'T want. it's not:
i hope i don't have to wait in line at the bank
it's
i will be immediately helped by a teller when i reach the bank
i am sure i will think of more to add
one experience i had:
i got a credit card bill in the mail and saw that i owed $900 on it. now, i am a full time student with a part time job in the midwest so to us, $900 is a LOT. that probably isn't much to you (no offense, we're just in different worlds kind of)
and i fretted over it for a while and was VERY worried - how would i EVER pay that off?! my credit would be ruined.
then i changed my thinking:
I am so happy and grateful now that I am out of debt, and have all the money I need.
Two days later I found a savings bond in my name, took it to the bank, and found out it was worth almost $7000.
And that's just one of the experiences I've had!!!
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02-27-2008, 11:11 PM
|  | in a strange way, hch > u | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: THAWNG ISLAND
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| | | shouldnt the universe recognise the inherent problem in the current financial system of fiat money and essentially global economic slavery? | 
02-27-2008, 11:15 PM
|  | kitschy minger | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: the medusa cascade
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Originally Posted by brookelyn what are the principles specified in the secret? i mean, how do you practice it specifically? are there steps? like do you do visualizations or only allow positive thoughts? do you meditate? create vision boards? there are so many ways to manifest your intentions, im curious how each person goes about it. | I don't have a vision board. A lot of people do, and it can be helpful, but I really find journaling is the best for me. I bought a canvas and some paints so hopefully I will be doing a painting soon.
DON'T WORRY about negative thoughts!!! Each positive thought you have is worth HUNDREDS of negative ones!!! The universe knows people can't be happy and high-spirited all the time. You just have to CHANGE your thinking. You can't control every thought you have. Monitoring EVERY thought would be exhausting!!!!! You just have to train yourself to think positively, and once the Secret starts working, it is SOOOO easy to keep it up! Once you starting getting what you want, it is easier to continue the positive thinking. Each positive thought builds on the next.
It is not just about "positive" thoughts either - The only think stronger than positive thinking is LOVE. If you issue love out of yourself into the world, that is the most powerful thing you can possibly do. Imagine love coming out of yourself at someone you really care for, and they will care more for you. Think about them only in positive terms, and those are the aspects of their personality that will be present to you.
If you don't like something about your S.O., just pretend it isn't there (that sounds HORRIBLE I KNOW!!) but if you think ONLY of their positive traits, those are the traits you will see. If he or she is displaying a negative trait, the universe will pull you away from each other for that time (your friend calls and invites you out for drinks while he stays home, e.g.)
__________________ dithyrambic does not:
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02-27-2008, 11:18 PM
|  | kitschy minger | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: the medusa cascade
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Originally Posted by fagarielina shouldnt the universe recognise the inherent problem in the current financial system of fiat money and essentially global economic slavery? | Well, obviously you are focusing on it, which means the universe thinks you like it, so it will continue
When you start thinking about economic booms for the world, for fair wages and trade, then those things will come about.
We see an abundance of what we despise. Esther Hicks has written a lot about this. When we focus on things, the universe assumes we want it and gives us more. If we wage a "war on drugs" the universe sees our attention go to drugs, and thinks we want more.
You can't say "I don't want a weak dollar"
You have to say "It's great that the dollar is so strong right now"
Even though it isn't true, because that's how it BECOMES true
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