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01-14-2008, 03:03 PM
|  | white shadow | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: where I please
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Originally Posted by wikipedia Etymology
The conventional view is that the word originates from Suf (???), the Arabic word for wool, referring to the simple cloaks the early Muslim ascetics wore.[4] However, not all sufis wear cloaks or clothes of wool. Another etymological theory states that the root word of Sufi is the Arabic word safa (???), meaning purity. This places the emphasis of Sufism on purity of heart and soul.
Others suggest the origin is from "Ashab al-Suffa" ("Companions of the Porch") or "Ahl al-Suffa" ("People of the Porch"), who were a group of Muslims during the time of the Prophet Mohammad who spent much of their time on the veranda of the Prophet's mosque devoted to prayer. Yet another etymology, advanced by the 10th century author Al-Biruni is that the word, as 'Sufiya', is linked with Sophia, the Greek term for "wisdom" - although for various reasons this derivation is not accepted by many at the present.
In the introduction to The Sufis, Idries Shah writes that the word Sufi has no known etymology. In a few different languages, the word takes the form Sufi (Arabic: ????, ta?awwuf - Kurdish: 'sofītī, f' - Persian: ????, Sufi gari - Turkish: 'Tasavvuf') or Irfan (Arabic/Persian: ?????) have been suggested. Basic beliefs
The essence of Being/Truth/God is devoid of every form and quality, and hence unmanifested, yet it is inseparable from every form and phenomenon either material or spiritual. It is often understood to imply that every phenomenon is an aspect of Truth and at the same time attribution of existence to it is false. This apparent paradox of the relationship of creator and created is the basis of Sufi metaphysics. The chief aim of all Sufis then is to let go of all notions of duality, including a conception of an individual self, and to realize the Divine unity.
Sufis generally teach in personal groups, as the counsel of the master is considered necessary for the growth of the pupil. They make extensive use of parable, allegory, and metaphor, and it is held by Sufis that meaning can only be reached through a process of seeking the truth, and knowledge of oneself. Although philosophies vary among different Sufi orders, Sufism as a whole is primarily concerned with direct personal experience, and as such may be compared to various forms of mysticism such as Hesychasm, Zen Buddhism, Gnosticism and Christian mysticism.
A significant part of Oriental literature comes from the Sufis, who created books of poetry containing the teachings of the Sufis. Some of the more notable examples of this poetry is Attar's Conference of the Birds and Rumi's Masnavi. |
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01-14-2008, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Sophia_ Yet another etymology, advanced by the 10th century author Al-Biruni is that the word, as 'Sufiya', is linked with Sophia, the Greek term for "wisdom" - although for various reasons this derivation is not accepted by many at the present. | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Sophia_ Although philosophies vary among different Sufi orders, Sufism as a whole is primarily concerned with direct personal experience, and as such may be compared to various forms of mysticism such as Hesychasm, Zen Buddhism, Gnosticism and Christian mysticism | Colours are fun. You're still not a Muslim though. | 
01-14-2008, 03:41 PM
|  | white shadow | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: where I please
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Originally Posted by Ophiel Ophiuci Colours are fun. You're still not a Muslim though. | Colors are fun--and you chose a complimentary color. Thanks!
I have'nt put such labels on my beliefs. I didn't know I was a Sufi until I read the book "Two Faces of Islam" by Stephan Schwartz. My project has brought me to this awareness. Sufism is a mysticism not attributed to any one religious belief, but rather more like a science which directs one to truth and a direct relationship with the divine nature within.
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I gave love; you gave me a thistle;
We shared tenderness; then you ran away;
I planted a rose; and you blossomed;
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01-14-2008, 03:52 PM
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| | | Nevertheless, it is a Muslim tradition which has many solid Western equivalents, so unless you're engaging in cultural exoticism for the sake of it, I'd say just go with one of them because this whole thing just makes you look ridiculous. | 
01-14-2008, 04:04 PM
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