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12-14-2007, 11:31 PM
| | Perfectly Imperfect | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando
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| | | Some beliefs I've conclusively come to that I'd like to have your opinion on. There has to be some sort of God. It's probably true that we can't comprehend God because we can't understand the idea of no time, of just a constant. But if we are going to agree there is a God, isn't there most likely a feminine and masculine principle to God? I don't want to even touch Christianity here because I'll end up shooting it down, and I don't want to draw attention from the main idea. It only makes sense that there is a "Father" and "Mother" God, if there is only two gods, that is. Perhaps pagan religions have had it right all along. But the fact is, women have been degraded and thought of as much less than equal, especially at the times where most of the world religions were formed. So people are very used to the idea of God being male, and if you suggest a Mother God, most people (at least of these world religions) will say that's impossible, question your sanity, be offended, and assume you are in a cult or got that idea from a cult. This is not a dis, it's just a mere fact.
But when you think about it, it makes perfect sense. It is now proven that men and women are equal. In most industrialized countries, women are now being able to have some success. And when women are given the chance, they've always excelled as much as men. Look at ancient pagan cultures where women were FEARED WARRIORS. It just depends on what we let them be.
Anyway, so many atheists reveal an excellent point: "Nothing imperfect and can come from anything perfect." This is very true, so we must ponder on whether God really is this vengeful, cruel, hateful God of the Old Testament who must have gotten on lithium in time for the New Testament, or is it something else?
Reincarnation is accepted by most religions, and even early Christians believed in it. In fact, Christianity was extremely different before Paul took over. I really don't want to be offensive, but the man had never met Jesus. When I believe Constantine decided to convert to Christianity, he took what he wanted from the teachings and made it the religion. For instance, it was a committee of men who selected the Bible. Many don't know this. Christians are taught in their faith that God directly inspired the Bible, and that those who say the Bible is written by men are wrong because "it is as though I take a pen and you tell me what to write. You are the true author." This is understandable, I suppose. But the thing is, these men selected the books of the Bible, and OF COURSE they were bias. And even if they weren't, how can anyone, hundreds of years after Jesus was around, really know which books are totally authentic and which aren't? It's quite a task, and it's quite interesting that the Book of Revelations almost didn't make it.
But what I'm saying is there's evidence of Reincarnation everywhere - Including in the gnostic books of Christianity. Nothing imperfect can come from something perfect, right? So what if we reincarnate for God's perfection? To me, it's like a child to their parent. They have their parent's DNA, right? So if we all come from God, essentially, though this sounds weird, we're all a part of God. So perhaps we come to this planet of pure negativity to gain experience and knowledge, and therefore God can perfect through us. I do believe God has to be all loving and way beyond petty human emotions. It may seem only normal that God would be furious as to how the world is, but you have to remember a God is the almighty. God has all control and is all knowing right? And God is the supreme. So if you imagine the best person you've ever met, God must be a millions times better, it's only logical. So I truly believe, if nothing else, there is a feminine and masculine aspect to God that HAS to be all loving and all knowing.
I think I make sense. God can be all knowing as God creates all, but it does make sense that we would come here to gain the experience. It definitely explains "Where were you God when this happened?". Because it's an excellent question. But I think that our lives are determined previously, and I think we ourselves make our life plan. I know it sounds way out there, but I think that could be the "free will." We incarnate to gain experience, and we choose the kind of life we'll have. I don't think every second of every day is planned, but I do think certain events are "meant to happen."
And I do think there is a paradise .... People who have near death experiences always have nearly identical experiences, of ALL DIFFERENT RELIGIONS. I know I have a relative in Panama who had one and like everyone who has the positive, amazing experience that is indescribable, she said she was extremely mad that she had to come back. So yeah, I don't believe after we die we just directly continue to incarnate. I'm sure there is a sort of paradise, I just think there has to be. This world is Hell in itself, I'm sure of this, as it a plane of utmost negativity.
"Life is dull, life is grey, and at its best it's just OK, but I'm also happy to report, Life is also short." - Quasi, song is California.
The concept of an eternal punishment to me is obviously a tool for the franchise aspect of religion, plus because if people knew they didn't have to be one religion, religion in itself would become much rarer, and people would have much more independent beliefs if they didn't have to live in fear. I just think there's NO way a divine creator would ever create a hell for those who aren't one ONE religion, when we're all SO different and each and every life is unique, and we're all going to have different experiences that will affect our beliefs. And it would make it SO unfair if one person had twenty years to be the right faith and another had a hundred. So yes, the concept of hell because you're not a religion to me is obviously impossible. I believe that the bad people we meet are just part of the experience of negativity. My only guess is that they must be souls who directly rejected God at the start, who I guess at the start used their free will for wrong. This is probably another bit of imperfection in God. I think evil is the antithesis to God, and I guess it could be like a cancer cell. I'll never know for sure, but it definitely explains the evidence that sociopaths are quite often born, not made. So yeah ..... I think it's reasonable that the evil people we meet are part of the learning process. But I don't think they go to a hell either. I think they probably recycle themselves, keep incarnating, keep being an utmost source of evil. I don't think ANYONE with even a drop of good in them could have done what Hitler or Stalin did, or what the current terrorists have done. So I think they could continue to incarnate over and over .... But I think that when all the incarnating is done, and when we've all perfected our souls and therefore perfected God that there has to be a sort of closure to all the evil. I think there will be a divine source that will make the evil souls good or whatever.
So yeah, I really do hope I haven't offended anyone. I know that was LONG but I just thought it'd be interesting to share these beliefs I've conclusively come to. Please don't make hateful comments .... We should all respect each other beliefs.
But I would like to know your responses.  | 
12-15-2007, 12:22 AM
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| | | Have you ever wondered what its like to talk with God? Try it next time you are on mushrooms.
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12-15-2007, 12:29 AM
| | don't call me Liz | | Join Date: Dec 2007
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Originally Posted by Shredded Valentines There has to be some sort of God. It's probably true that we can't comprehend God because we can't understand the idea of no time, of just a constant. But if we are going to agree there is a God, isn't there most likely a feminine and masculine principle to God? I don't want to even touch Christianity here because I'll end up shooting it down, and I don't want to draw attention from the main idea. It only makes sense that there is a "Father" and "Mother" God, if there is only two gods, that is. Perhaps pagan religions have had it right all along. But the fact is, women have been degraded and thought of as much less than equal, especially at the times where most of the world religions were formed. So people are very used to the idea of God being male, and if you suggest a Mother God, most people (at least of these world religions) will say that's impossible, question your sanity, be offended, and assume you are in a cult or got that idea from a cult. This is not a dis, it's just a mere fact.
But when you think about it, it makes perfect sense. It is now proven that men and women are equal. In most industrialized countries, women are now being able to have some success. And when women are given the chance, they've always excelled as much as men. Look at ancient pagan cultures where women were FEARED WARRIORS. It just depends on what we let them be.
Anyway, so many atheists reveal an excellent point: "Nothing imperfect and can come from anything perfect." This is very true, so we must ponder on whether God really is this vengeful, cruel, hateful God of the Old Testament who must have gotten on lithium in time for the New Testament, or is it something else?
Reincarnation is accepted by most religions, and even early Christians believed in it. In fact, Christianity was extremely different before Paul took over. I really don't want to be offensive, but the man had never met Jesus. When I believe Constantine decided to convert to Christianity, he took what he wanted from the teachings and made it the religion. For instance, it was a committee of men who selected the Bible. Many don't know this. Christians are taught in their faith that God directly inspired the Bible, and that those who say the Bible is written by men are wrong because "it is as though I take a pen and you tell me what to write. You are the true author." This is understandable, I suppose. But the thing is, these men selected the books of the Bible, and OF COURSE they were bias. And even if they weren't, how can anyone, hundreds of years after Jesus was around, really know which books are totally authentic and which aren't? It's quite a task, and it's quite interesting that the Book of Revelations almost didn't make it.
But what I'm saying is there's evidence of Reincarnation everywhere - Including in the gnostic books of Christianity. Nothing imperfect can come from something perfect, right? So what if we reincarnate for God's perfection? To me, it's like a child to their parent. They have their parent's DNA, right? So if we all come from God, essentially, though this sounds weird, we're all a part of God. So perhaps we come to this planet of pure negativity to gain experience and knowledge, and therefore God can perfect through us. I do believe God has to be all loving and way beyond petty human emotions. It may seem only normal that God would be furious as to how the world is, but you have to remember a God is the almighty. God has all control and is all knowing right? And God is the supreme. So if you imagine the best person you've ever met, God must be a millions times better, it's only logical. So I truly believe, if nothing else, there is a feminine and masculine aspect to God that HAS to be all loving and all knowing.
I think I make sense. God can be all knowing as God creates all, but it does make sense that we would come here to gain the experience. It definitely explains "Where were you God when this happened?". Because it's an excellent question. But I think that our lives are determined previously, and I think we ourselves make our life plan. I know it sounds way out there, but I think that could be the "free will." We incarnate to gain experience, and we choose the kind of life we'll have. I don't think every second of every day is planned, but I do think certain events are "meant to happen."
And I do think there is a paradise .... People who have near death experiences always have nearly identical experiences, of ALL DIFFERENT RELIGIONS. I know I have a relative in Panama who had one and like everyone who has the positive, amazing experience that is indescribable, she said she was extremely mad that she had to come back. So yeah, I don't believe after we die we just directly continue to incarnate. I'm sure there is a sort of paradise, I just think there has to be. This world is Hell in itself, I'm sure of this, as it a plane of utmost negativity.
"Life is dull, life is grey, and at its best it's just OK, but I'm also happy to report, Life is also short." - Quasi, song is California.
The concept of an eternal punishment to me is obviously a tool for the franchise aspect of religion, plus because if people knew they didn't have to be one religion, religion in itself would become much rarer, and people would have much more independent beliefs if they didn't have to live in fear. I just think there's NO way a divine creator would ever create a hell for those who aren't one ONE religion, when we're all SO different and each and every life is unique, and we're all going to have different experiences that will affect our beliefs. And it would make it SO unfair if one person had twenty years to be the right faith and another had a hundred. So yes, the concept of hell because you're not a religion to me is obviously impossible. I believe that the bad people we meet are just part of the experience of negativity. My only guess is that they must be souls who directly rejected God at the start, who I guess at the start used their free will for wrong. This is probably another bit of imperfection in God. I think evil is the antithesis to God, and I guess it could be like a cancer cell. I'll never know for sure, but it definitely explains the evidence that sociopaths are quite often born, not made. So yeah ..... I think it's reasonable that the evil people we meet are part of the learning process. But I don't think they go to a hell either. I think they probably recycle themselves, keep incarnating, keep being an utmost source of evil. I don't think ANYONE with even a drop of good in them could have done what Hitler or Stalin did, or what the current terrorists have done. So I think they could continue to incarnate over and over .... But I think that when all the incarnating is done, and when we've all perfected our souls and therefore perfected God that there has to be a sort of closure to all the evil. I think there will be a divine source that will make the evil souls good or whatever.
So yeah, I really do hope I haven't offended anyone. I know that was LONG but I just thought it'd be interesting to share these beliefs I've conclusively come to. Please don't make hateful comments .... We should all respect each other beliefs.
But I would like to know your responses.  | too long. | 
12-15-2007, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by AshWendsday too long. | I read it all. She is talking about getting to know God. The only way is through the Bible. Try and take a year out to read it from cover to cover.
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12-15-2007, 01:01 AM
| | Perfectly Imperfect | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando
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| | | Are you joking or are you serious? | 
12-15-2007, 01:30 AM
| | don't call me Liz | | Join Date: Dec 2007
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| | | I don't know if he's joking or not, but the only way to know God is to seek out for Him. Wether it's reading the bible or a metaphysics book, go out there and read about Him and His word. | 
12-15-2007, 11:41 AM
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| | | I found the Necronomicon to be a far more interesting read than the Bible. | 
12-15-2007, 11:46 AM
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