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Old 12-07-2007, 08:54 PM
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Is Meyers-Briggs the same as this one?



My cousin gave me this book when I was around 14...I remember getting some weird looks in high school when I'd read it at lunchtime. Anyhow, I would usually vary between "ENFJ" and "ENFP", (being borderline between judgmental and perceptive) - also my extroversion wasn't that strong...I guess I'm a shy extrovert.

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Old 12-07-2007, 09:39 PM
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The Portait of the Counselor (INFJ)

The Counselor Idealists are abstract in thought and speech, cooperative in reaching their goals, and enterprising and attentive in their interpersonal roles. Counselors focus on human potentials, think in terms of ethical values, and come easily to decisions. The small number of this type (little more than 2 percent) is regrettable, since Counselors have an unusually strong desire to contribute to the welfare of others and genuinely enjoy helping their companions. Although Counsleors tend to be private, sensitive people, and are not generally visible leaders, they nevertheless work quite intensely with those close to them, quietly exerting their influence behind the scenes with their families, friends, and colleagues. This type has great depth of personality; they are themselves complicated, and can understand and deal with complex issues and people.

Counselors can be hard to get to know. They have an unusually rich inner life, but they are reserved and tend not to share their reactions except with those they trust. With their loved ones, certainly, Counselors are not reluctant to express their feelings, their face lighting up with the positive emotions, but darkening like a thunderhead with the negative. Indeed, because of their strong ability to take into themselves the feelings of others, Counselors can be hurt rather easily by those around them, which, perhaps, is one reason why they tend to be private people, mutely withdrawing from human contact. At the same time, friends who have known a Counselor for years may find sides emerging which come as a surprise. Not that they are inconsistent; Counselors value their integrity a great deal, but they have intricately woven, mysterious personalities which sometimes puzzle even them.

Counselors have strong empathic abilities and can become aware of another's emotions or intentions -- good or evil -- even before that person is conscious of them. This "mind-reading" can take the form of feeling the hidden distress or illnesses of others to an extent which is difficult for other types to comprehend. Even Counselors can seldom tell how they came to penetrate others' feelings so keenly. Furthermore, the Counselor is most likely of all the types to demonstrate an ability to understand psychic phenomena and to have visions of human events, past, present, or future. What is known as ESP may well be exceptional intuitive ability-in both its forms, projection and introjection. Such supernormal intuition is found frequently in the Counselor, and can extend to people, things, and often events, taking the form of visions, episodes of foreknowledge, premonitions, auditory and visual images of things to come, as well as uncanny communications with certain individuals at a distance.

Mohandas Gandhi, Sidney Poitier, Eleanor Roosevelt, Jane Goodall, Emily Bronte, Sir Alec Guiness, Carl Jung, Mary Baker Eddy, Queen Noor are examples of the Counselor Idealist (INFJ).
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Old 12-08-2007, 03:24 AM
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So did Osho.
osho was a charlatan. was he an introvert? i dunno, but when i was a follower of his he was in some kind of great silence.
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The persona is a false front we project to survive in the world: the mask. The true self is different.
not sure i agree, though many seem to feel like this. the differentiation between external and internal selves seems like an artificial construct, and labelling one the true self and the other false is definitely so. i guess i'm an agnostic behaviourist, though the sort that doesn't require behaviours to be observable so allows thinking, feeling, etc.
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Old 12-08-2007, 03:42 AM
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we had to guess our personality type before we actually took the test, and i managed to guess mine absolutely spot on. we put marks on the line over which way we swayed between introverted and extroverted etc, even they were right.
it feels strange.


i am INTP, i think?
i was equal amounts thinking and feeling.

sophia, if you are going to post so much please change your signature, it makes this thread virtually unreadable.
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So did Osho.

Osho clearly wasn't an introvert. If someone demands attention be paid to his silence... I doubt John Cage would've disagreed if you'd called him an extrovert.
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