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12-11-2007, 05:19 PM
|  | Lord of Katsup | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Cruz Mountains
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Originally Posted by wikipedia Passive-aggressive behavior
Passive-aggressive behavior refers to passive, sometimes obstructionist resistance to following authoritative instructions in interpersonal or occupational situations. It can manifest itself as resentment, stubbornness, procrastination, sullenness, or repeated failure to accomplish requested tasks for which one is assumed, often explicitly, to be responsible. It is a defense mechanism and, more often than not, only partly conscious. For example, people who are passive-aggressive might take so long to get ready for a party they do not wish to attend,that the party is nearly over by the time they arrive. Alternatively, leaving [subtle hints]notes to avoid face-to-face discussion/confrontation is another form of passive-aggressive behavior.
Passive-aggressive personality disorder (also called negativistic personality disorder) is a controversial personality disorder said to be marked by a pervasive pattern of negative attitudes and passive, usually disavowed resistance in interpersonal or occupational situations. It was listed as an Axis II personality disorder in the DSM-III-R, but was moved in the DSM-IV to Appendix B ("Criteria Sets and Axes Provided for Further Study") because of controversy and the need for further research on how to also categorize the behaviors in a future edition.
On that point, Cecil Adams writes:
Merely being passive-aggressive isn't a disorder but a behavior — sometimes a perfectly rational behavior, which lets you dodge unpleasant chores while avoiding confrontation. It's only pathological if it's a habitual, crippling response reflecting a pervasively pessimistic attitude.[1]
When the behaviors are part of a person's disorder or personality style, repercussions are usually not immediate, but instead ac***ulate over time as the individuals affected by the person come to recognize the disavowed aggression coming from that person. People with this personality style are often quite unconscious of their impact on others, and thus may be genuinely dismayed when held to account for the inconvenience or discomfort caused by their passive-aggressive behaviors. In that context, there is a failure to see how they might have provoked a negative response, so they feel misunderstood, held to unreasonable standards, and/or put upon.
Treatment of this disorder can be difficult: efforts to convince the patient that their unconscious feelings are being expressed passively, and that the passive expression of those feelings (their behavior) inspires other people's anger or disappointment with the patient, are often met with resistance. Individuals with the disorder will frequently leave treatment claiming that it did no good. Since the effectiveness of various therapies have yet to be proven, these individuals may be correct.
Passive aggressive disorder is said to stem from a specific childhood stimulus (e.g. overbearing parental figures, or alcohol/drug addicted parents).
The term "passive-aggressive" was first used by the U.S. military during World War II, when military psychiatrists noted the behavior of soldiers who displayed passive resistance and reluctant compliance to orders. [2] | I can own some of this description. How about you?
I am willing to face the unknown 10* at the Coffee Emporium face to face(and I won't be late or cancel). I sounded rather positive I thought. Maybe I don't recognize the negativity in my poetry. Would you please point it out to me when you see it? I'm open to healing and living a more fulfilled life. *Alternatively, leaving [subtle hints]notes to avoid face-to-face discussion/confrontation is another form of passive-aggressive behavior. Seems Rancheria and the Holligan's have revealed some of this personality dissorder via anonymous assailment on KR. I could be misperceiving this, but it sure seems like similar behavior to me. I guess we will see if Rancheria can follow through on his offered "intervention".
I would say "subtle hints" are a revealing habit of passive aggressive disorder. Again, this could be misperception or poor intuition on my part.
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12-11-2007, 05:28 PM
|  | #1 ****-kicker-in | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northampton, UK:
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Seems Rancheria and the Holligan's have revealed some of this personality dissorder via anonymous assailment on KR. I could be misperceiving this, but it sure seems like similar behavior to me. I guess we will see if Rancheria can follow through on his offered "intervention".
| "leaving notes" on a message board is hardly comparable, since it's the accepted means of communication within that medium and the most direct one can be. An equivalent to passive aggressivism on a forum would be to constantly talk about you in threads that you're not a participant in, and then back down as soon as you see them.
You seem to be quite attracted to the idea of passive aggressivism. |
12-11-2007, 05:30 PM
|  | P.M.L.D. | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: good morning road
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Originally Posted by Sophia_  ..
I can own some of this description. How about you?
I am willing to face the unknown 10* at the Coffee Emporium face to face(and I won't be late or cancel). I sounded rather positive I thought. Maybe I don't recognize the negativity in my poetry. Would you please point it out to me when you see it? I'm open to healing and living a more fulfilled life. *Alternatively, leaving [subtle hints]notes to avoid face-to-face discussion/confrontation is another form of passive-aggressive behavior. Seems Rancheria and the Holligan's have revealed some of this personality dissorder via anonymous assailment on KR. I could be misperceiving this, but it sure seems like similar behavior to me. I guess we will see if Rancheria can follow through on his offered "intervention".
I would say "subtle hints" are a revealing habit of passive aggressive disorder. Again, this could be misperception or poor intuition on my part. | i can be passive aggressive, but also aggressive aggressive. i think you're a liar and a bore. i'm not interested in healing you or whatever, but the thing about leaving notes, subtle hints, avoiding face-face discussion is so carefulcarpenter, or whoever you quote at the bottom. your aphorisms aren't aids to learning, they're digs. i've also noticed the "how about you" come up a lot lately, that's an almost scientology-like tactic.
i can't answer for rancheria etc |
12-11-2007, 05:44 PM
|  | Strafe Guru Narcissists ! | | Join Date: May 2007 Location: Cascadia Subduction Zone
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Originally Posted by Ophiel Ophiuci "There is nothing more indicative of a mediocre mind than to default to citing Albert Einstein in the absence of any insight of its own" ~~armani******bag | I've been refreshing my vocabulary through Soph's Dictionary.com Spam. I enjoy you and Kesh's very insightful "chiding" comments concerning Soph's passive--aggresive use of his Dictionary.com Spam as well as his mediocre mind's typical defaultive citing of one of Sophiadin_'s heroes, Albert Einstein. You can always count on Albert to be oh so poignantly timely, when you really need him.
Albert is listed as a Myers-Briggs INTP. Notice that INTP is only one letter different than Sophiadin_'s INFP/INFJ !!
That is pretty damn close to Einstein's type. Amazing the difference one little letter can make.
God, I wish I were an Introvert. I took the test again a little while ago when I was in a reflective, quiet mood, tired of too many people and traffic, and I got an 11% I , for an I N F J . Yes !!! You don't know how happy that made me feel and improved my mood back to an E N F J ---I would guess. Maybe I'll take the test right now to confirm if I"m back to an Extrovert now.
Your 'violent opposition' and Kesh's comment about Steven Seagal's roundhouse kick for his intervention method for Soph_ cheared me up a lot too. Reading you and Kesh's posts will help keep me being an Extrovert. I need to be an Extro to reach out to Sophiadin_., if for only that reason.
(I'm a little freaked out/alarmed about your (Ophiel's) signature quote, since my best friend up in Humboldt has told me for 4 years that Soph is a deep, deep concealed Gay, so deep in the closet that even having two wives is barely enough Coffee Emporium closet cover for him. And no kidding, she said he would be a total bottom !! No **** !! so?? Now I'm wondering about that again. That could explain some things that don't make sense about his dual spiritual love life that I've noticed. Just an extroverted wonder !! ) (and I did describe his spiritual wife, Mr. G. as a Minnesota Matron---moderate battle ax) (to me a moderate battle ax usually appears manly) Just an hypothesis---not violent opposition from Rancheria and the Hooligans, rest assured Soph.
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