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Old 12-08-2007, 06:56 AM
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Probably true. Whereas they're great as spokesmen in debates (see the activism thread in The Void) because they're less likely to concede their point purely because it's been proven to be gibberish by their opponent.

The study I frequently cite (and should really find a link for) that sought to establish what factors affected happiness used two groups in each geographical/social/cultural area for its results, both asking the person and a group of their friends to say whether they thought they were a happy person, on a scale of 1 to 10 (or something like that, anyway). The study realises that the way one perceives oneself is entirely fallable.
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Well.. (lame) but on facebook my friends all rated me as being unhappy.
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Old 12-08-2007, 07:24 AM
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Awww.

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I don't think I am anymore unhappy than any of them though.. NOW I am
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Maybe you should make them less happy.
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they're just projecting. unhappy people hate it when you're happy
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NO NO NO, happy people spend their entire life trying to ruin Sophia_'s superior happiness because it makes them feel better about how not unhappy they are.

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NO NO NO, happy people spend their entire life trying to ruin Sophia_'s superior happiness because it makes them feel better about how not unhappy they are.

YEAH.
YEaH yEAh n0, sophia_ spends hafl his entire life superiorizing his (uN)happiness. what d'ya thing sophia_ thinks about when he's having a wank?
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You and me. Who else would he think of?
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who knows. i just hacked his photobucket
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Sophia, why do you have a photo of Laura Dern Kiegelcising?
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The study realises that the way one perceives oneself is entirely fallable.
I agree in general but introversion is a special case. I'm certain I'd get rated 'extrovert' by most people who know me, and I'm certain I'm not. By definition they only see me when I'm in the mood for being social and not when I'm holed up on my own.

I'd love to talk more about this but someone has to stick Sophia_ on UI first.
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Old 12-08-2007, 09:18 AM
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The point is that "introverted" and "extroverted" refer specifically to how someone presents themselves in public. Based on testimony of people who've actually met Soph, he would appear to be very much an extrovert. He calls it "misperception", but there's no way to "misperceive" something that is in itself an abstract concept referring to other people's perceptions.

But yeah, among people who want to appear spiritual, being extrovert is like having AIDS.
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i dunno, spasmachine has pointed out the selection bias involved if you rely on friends' testimonies. introversion/extroversion isn't solely about how you present to others, but your social behaviour in general.

i may socialise once a month and act like the life and soul, but spend the rest of my time preferring to be alone. 29 days out of 30 i'm exhibiting introverted behaviour, but asking my friends how extrovert i am is not going to give this result, unless they realise that when i'm not with them i'm not with anyone.
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that sums up what's worst in introverts, all the overthinking and pontificating without actually learning anything, thinking he's hit on essential truths without looking around himself for checks & balances. Extroverts hate that shit and I can't blame them.
You find those behaviours in both types, I don't think it's type-specific.

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i dunno, spasmachine has pointed out the selection bias involved if you rely on friends' testimonies. introversion/extroversion isn't solely about how you present to others, but your social behaviour in general.

i may socialise once a month and act like the life and soul, but spend the rest of my time preferring to be alone. 29 days out of 30 i'm exhibiting introverted behaviour, but asking my friends how extrovert i am is not going to give this result, unless they realise that when i'm not with them i'm not with anyone.
This is kind of what I meant about it not being a useful term, but I don't think it can really be re-defined just to make it apply again. I'm certainly not going to do it for Sophia_'s sake.
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That's the thing I hate though, people always assume I am shy because I don't enjoy talking non stop and feel awkward in small talk conversations cause I find them to be utter bollocks, fake and totally unnecessary. At work I pretend though. If I was shy would I get on stage in front of alot of people and be the front woman in a band though? Doubt it.

I can be anti-social.. but I always put the gun back in the wardrobe before going to the shopping mall.
I dunno ... but they do say entertainers can be shy people, often. I'm not sure the psychology of it, why they can go on stage and express emselves without any shyness and then offstage settle back into their regular personality. No I won't say Kurt Cobain! No. Plz not on this board ... Ok, some may take drugs to do it ... but probably most took em anyway.
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Rancheria is full of rage--underneath the extroverted surface veneer!
Maybe you should let him leave the tiny office and not block the door.
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