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Old 10-26-2007, 12:34 PM
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ethics?

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I am working for a year to fund what I want to do next and I've been offered jobs by two different banking corporations. However, I only applied because my sister currently works for one and told me about the job and it would have seemed churlish not to, and my dad used to work for the other and asked me to. I have no relevent experience so i didnt really expect to get the offers. the problem is that my particular brand of ethics means im not too fond of banks or what they represent. so considering i hate these sorts of things, would it be hyprocritical to work for them and take their money, even if it was only on a short term basis and considering that i would be using the money for something good?
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Old 10-26-2007, 12:40 PM
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you could be horribly unproductive and take their money, thus lessening their power to do the bad stuff you think they do
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Old 10-26-2007, 01:49 PM
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you could be horribly unproductive and take their money, thus lessening their power to do the bad stuff you think they do
haha i could but if i signed a contract to say i would work, i would have to work to a reasonable standard, bloody ethics, otherwise it would have to be out and out sabotage, no half measures

and im actually surprised my dad recommended i apply for one of them, because he was a manager there for years but took early retirement because he was more and more disgusted with their practices

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One way of looking at it is that by working for em, yer delivering yer own moral sense to em. Though obviously we're talking an extremely tiny influence ... heh .....

And ... also banks in Canada support a lot of charities ... sponsor stuff ... some community responsibility I guess, though they probably do it for image purposes. Still, you could get involved in that part of to balance things.

I mean, they gotta balance the fact they make record profits while gouging their customers, manipulating markets, laundering drug money, buying politicians, and loaning money to military contractors ... ok, nevermind that.
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Old 10-26-2007, 02:12 PM
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i think in reality i will probably take one of em up on the offer, because it seems senseless to go and work in a warehouse or something, which is a lot harder, for less money. i do have a nagging feeling i will convince myself into it, be alright for about 3 months, after which i will lose it and there will be some sort of 'incident'...

i like the idea of trying to influence them, but when ive had jobs like this before, for work experience and stuff, the people have really gotten to me after awhile,
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I think that if you take the time to consider why exactly you don't want to work in a bank, you'll be alot more comfortable with whatever decision you end up making. You need to ask yourself:
- What do banks represent?
- How am I influencing the world by working in a bank?
- How important are ethics in my life?

Personally, I don't really think it unethical to work in a bank. Do you think our money system is corrupt? Banks are but mediums of storage. You're no more condoning this corruption by working in a bank than you are by using money. I'd choose working in a bank over working in a warehouse any day.
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Ya, cuz they will also try to influence you ... goes both ways. Yet you may meet somebody you really like.
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I think (sure you dont care ) only you could know that. Being puritanical about ethics can lead to a hard life. Youre going to run into resistance at many points. The best way to deal with it without stifling all your chances is to think about things in the long view: Whatever your ethical code is, you can probably service it better by getting ahead in life to a situation of some prominence where you can, you know, make a difference. Join them for a while until you can beat them. Until then find little ways to bring your own standards to the things you have to do.
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Old 11-18-2007, 01:19 PM
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I think (sure you dont care ) only you could know that. Being puritanical about ethics can lead to a hard life. Youre going to run into resistance at many points. The best way to deal with it without stifling all your chances is to think about things in the long view: Whatever your ethical code is, you can probably service it better by getting ahead in life to a situation of some prominence where you can, you know, make a difference. Join them for a while until you can beat them. Until then find little ways to bring your own standards to the things you have to do.
i turned them both down in the end but only because something better came along, for the short term at least, so this particular decision has been put on the back burner for the time being. to be honest, it wouldnt have necessarily have been working for a bank that drove me mad, but yeah, i totally take on board the point that it is all very well to have ethics and what not, but what good is it if you have zero interaction with the world
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1. (used with a singular or plural verb) a system of moral principles: the ethics of a culture.
2. the rules of conduct recognized in respect to a particular class of human actions or a particular group, culture, etc.: medical ethics; Christian ethics.
3. moral principles, as of an individual: His ethics forbade betrayal of a confidence.
4. (usually used with a singular verb) that branch of philosophy dealing with values relating to human conduct, with respect to the rightness and wrongness of certain actions and to the goodness and badness of the motives and ends of such actions.
Your success will be influenced by the environment you live and work in. If your father got you an interview you already know what ethics he has served and what richness he has gained. Is this your system of moral standards? He may know you better than you know yourself? Now might be the time to discover what you really stand for.


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