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Old 05-18-2006, 01:24 PM
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it's such bullshit
Around here I can see what you support.

Just curious.... what do you support?
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Old 05-18-2006, 01:39 PM
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Just curious.... what do you support?
did you even read my fucking post, man?

if i told you what i do, i wouldn't be standing behind my last post. and i'm sure it'll be no surprise to you that i can't do that.

and no, contrary to what i'm sure you're thinking, that isn't a cop-out.

i'll make this real fuckin easy for ya too. i said -

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you wanna know why i haven't mentioned stuff that i do? (and no, it's not because i do nothing).

it's because i can't stand it when people help others as a way to make a statement about themselves.

if you hate the world and want to help change it, do it because living in an extremely priviledged part of the world is a responsibility.

do it because you want change.

not so you can brag about what you support or get behind
i don't need to answer to you or anyone else.

if i answered that question my contributions would become about proving something to you, which isn't why i do what i do whatsoever.

what i choose to support and i how i choose to do it is not what define me.

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Around here I can see what you support.
is that so?

care to elaborate?
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Old 05-18-2006, 03:08 PM
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I think fagarelina meant when sanctions are on a place, its almost useless to have foreign aid.

things like that make it obvious that world leaders dont look out for the people which is silly. Its like that in a place like Ethiopia.
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i could give you a few books to read that might change your perspective. Are you interested?
Which books were you going to suggest ?
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Old 05-18-2006, 06:21 PM
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i think things are getting better. revolution's coming.
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Old 05-18-2006, 07:22 PM
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what i meant is
money as we know it is more than just a common means of exchange but a construct for contorl designed to enslave so when you try to use "their money"
to "help"
youre only supporting "them having the power to create/influence anyway such a situation
and strengthening it long into the future

an uprising is coming in the states
BUT ITS BY DESIGN FOR ALL THE WRONG REASONS
its good see things going according to plan*fingertip thing*
EXCELLEEEEENT

haha

but anyway the only possible merit that positive thinking argument has is the vibes it projects out into the world
which can have effect on stuff\
a little new agy"
but im crazy
so haha

but still i thinkits more a "cop out" to be like all is good and as it should be
or god grant me the serentity to accept what i cant change and shit
when there literally is people truly suffering like starving kids inthe so called 3rd world and shit(for the convience of the west in a sense at the expense of anything "real for us so hmm gofigga
even if it was /couldbe from having a NAUGHTY past life or whatever thats some fucked up shit
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Old 05-18-2006, 07:24 PM
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I think fagarelina meant when sanctions are on a place, its almost useless to have foreign aid.

things like that make it obvious that world leaders dont look out for the people which is silly. Its like that in a place like Ethiopia.

thats possible i dunno thbe lower level "realistic factual DETAILS
of how its externally systematically done
but yeah something like that
haha
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Old 05-18-2006, 07:49 PM
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haha everything IS shit.

but it's getting better. and NOT according to plan. yes in some ways, ie. bush is a scapegoat and/or all the little dissent from public figures who easily fold, etc.
people are waking up to that shit too now.

haha, i think i've got the fuzz coming over to record a demo tomorrow. what should i do if he kills me in the name of god?
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Old 05-19-2006, 02:17 AM
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i feel
civil unrest is growing by design
and there will be worse to happen that will eventually "be the straw to break the camels back" soitospeak or eagles whateva
a possible economic depression(due to the oil bourse/depreciatingthe dolla??)
more incompetent govt stuff by design
all designed to break the peoples faith in THEIR govt
and leading to an actual violent? uprising
and when thathappens the eu? will step in as a preset solution to the deliberate problem and manufactured reaction
(assimlation of the us into the already growing one world govt thing
under the guise of one united world and peace
and this is still only the EXTERNAL SOLIDIFICATION of the breakdown of the delusion of national soverignty
it never existed

im all for one world and stuff but not how its gonna be
and this is the natural progression of things when working from these foundations

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Old 05-19-2006, 03:21 AM
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thats possible i dunno thbe lower level "realistic factual DETAILS
of how its externally systematically done
but yeah something like that
haha
thats what I got out of your 'piss poor' post
in the way that people are descent to each other mostly
how we can solve a lot of sheet between us as citizens.
but the gun knife mafia mental rules most established order.
trying to define more aspect of how one should
be loyal enough to suffer and die
over the ideals that nullify the pursuit of broaden culture.
kindof like a jealous boyfriend telling a girl who she
can or cant hang with. or if she can wear thongs or not.
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Old 05-19-2006, 03:25 AM
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you spelled it wrong

ARE YOU ssayinf icaNT WEAR THAWNGZ?
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Old 05-22-2006, 05:23 PM
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Which books were you going to suggest ?
Could you answer this question please, paladin ?
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Old 05-22-2006, 05:31 PM
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Could you answer this question please, paladin ?
Robert Pirsig has two I would suggest.

"Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance"
"Lila"


"How to Want What You Have" by Tomothy Miller.
Compassion: Attention: Gratitude

"How the Mind Works" by Steven Pinker

"Man's Search for Meaning" by Victor Frankl
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Robert Pirsig has two I would suggest.

"Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance"
"Lila"


"How to Want What You Have" by Tomothy Miller.
Compassion: Attention: Gratitude

"How the Mind Works" by Steven Pinker

"Man's Search for Meaning" by Victor Frankl

Thanks.
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Old 05-22-2006, 05:42 PM
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Thanks.
You are very welcome! What have you read lately that you would suggest?
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You are very welcome! What have you read lately that you would suggest?
People!
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how can you look at a starving child in africa and not be pissed off and angry that we allow that to happen?.
I hope you meant by "we" you mean their government that has known to spend aid from western charities on their armies and warfare.

We dont allow it to happen, we cant help the fact that in Africa their weather is unforgiving and their government corrupt and they still insist on having lots of children knowing they will be born into a world of suffering and cruelty and a high potential to be born with AIDS never mind catching it.

But yes its true, life has the potential to be both cruel and beautiful, its only shit if you concentrate on the shit, just look at what you have and be thankful.

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Old 05-23-2006, 11:57 AM
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The good; the true; the beautiful.

These are the elements in a quality life. ANYONE can pursue these.

Quality is the relative nature that binds these elements into complex forms.(We are talking the fundamental forces of the universe here). Your life is a mix of low quality and high quality; static quality and dynamic quality. What you support is what you are.

We see things from a point of view determined by our path. We grow at different rates; some people grow very little and some monumentally.

Perception and appreciation of quality is a very high state of growth. This comes from effort and focus. Heaven is a high quality experience of self love (not the narcissistic kind).

Compassion; Attention; Gratitude. These are the keys to self love (love of self).


"Reaching out to others is reaching in to self"
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just look at what you have and be thankful.

see all im saying is those govts are corrupt by design and tying into the whole idea of surviival control through all nations
turn a blind eye and count your blessings keps you complacent and only serves to further/strengthen said survival control
which is part of the starving childrne in africa thing
so we are used to indirectly support it
its pretty csimple
call it speculation or conspirac theory all you want
BUT THE ALIENS CAME TO ME AND SHOWED ME THE DIABOLICAL PLAN
and we lunched


but at the same time what im doing gettin down about it or whining doesnt help shit either
i cant PERSONALLY complain about my particular situation at all
but i feel bad that everything is perfect for me and my sustaining of my survival(out of my hands kinda
supports that systematic rape on all fronts
and like i said before the only merit the positive thinkin thing might have it the vibrations it sends out
THEY FEED OON NEGATIVE ENERGY AND THE LAST THING THIS WORLD NEEDS IS MORE OF THAT
and i also think "self" means the all were part of and recognzing that
so i like tht quote but like said before
using "their" money to "help"
is really only serving to support their power essentially by supporting their means of exchange
THAWNG GRANT ME THE SERTENTNTITY TO ACPET HE THAWNGZ I CANNOT CHANGE(COS THEY ENCRUSTED AND STUCK TO MAH ASS LIKE GLUE
and the courgae to change the thawngz i can cos theyalreayd gotalot of poo on dem and u no i aint tryin toget dat on a niga handz and the thanwgdom to know da difference
sometimes it be chocolate yo i get messy sometimes
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pixie, take deep breaths and be calmed by the knowledge that someday all of this will no longer exist. <3

and i think the notion of this thread is bullshit. you can be kind & giving all you like, it doesn't change the fact that some cunt might choose to run upto you, douse you in petrol and set you on fire one day.

and i don't fundamentally see an ugly world, i see things which make quite a lovely world rather ugly.

i only support what people do, because i believe if we continue our current existence, it is the most likely scenario of us eventually wiping ourselves out. consume til our doom, GO GO GO!
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