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07-28-2007, 02:41 AM
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| | | Just a few queries..
Ok, so I have absolutley no idea about christianity and truth be told i'm very predjudice against it. however there are a few things i'm curious about so if anyone can answer a few questions for me it would be greatly appreciated.
firstly, where do dinosaurs fit into the whole equation? like god created the earth, then he created man so when adam and eve left eden, were they living in prehistoric times?
How did mankind become so big and diverse if we are all decendants of 2 people? and is it true that eve had 2 sons? if so, doesn't that make every person on earth incest?
that's all i can think of right now, but more are sure to come to me. |
07-28-2007, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by shovelqueen  firstly, where do dinosaurs fit into the whole equation? like god created the earth, then he created man so when adam and eve left eden, were they living in prehistoric times? | i don't know what the church actually teaches, but i've known many "devout" christians who insist that dinosaur bones were put into the earth to "test our faith". so apparently dinosaurs never existed, just the bones.
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07-29-2007, 07:23 PM
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| | Or they lived among humans. Eating grass of course.  |
07-29-2007, 07:35 PM
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| | The answers to your questions all depend on what christian you ask.
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07-30-2007, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by shovelqueen
firstly, where do dinosaurs fit into the whole equation?
| They lived about 65 millions years ago. They ruled the earth for 150 millions years. Then one day this six mile wide rock hit the earth and wiped them, plus 70% of other life, off the earth. But their bad luck was our good luck. It allowed our shrew sized ancestors to come out of hiding and to eventually dominate the earth.
The late Stephen J Gould said if the dinosaurs hadn't died out we probably wouldn't be here today.
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07-30-2007, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by sokkar i don't know what the church actually teaches, but i've known many "devout" christians who insist that dinosaur bones were put into the earth to "test our faith". so apparently dinosaurs never existed, just the bones. | Your average evangelical believes this. |
07-30-2007, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Jennia Or they lived among humans. Eating grass of course. | Just like in the Flintstones. |
07-31-2007, 03:16 AM
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| | | I hate how christians try to make religion "cool". its so lame! beverly thrills, thanx for the link but as soon as I read "Jesus wants us to be hot for Him, not lukewarm" I got the fuck out of there.
i still dont understand |
07-31-2007, 03:18 AM
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| | | "If you find an Atheist in your neighborhood,
TELL A PARENT OR PASTOR RIGHT AWAY!
You may be moved to try and witness to
these poor lost souls yourself, however
AVOID TALKING TO THEM!
Atheists are often very grumpy and bitter and will lash out at children or they may even try to trick you into neglecting God's Word.
Very advanced witnessing techniques are needed for these grouches. Let the adults handle them"
WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!! |
07-31-2007, 03:46 AM
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| | | well, i think most christians believe that he creation of the earth is just a myth, like a way people 3000bc found to explain who the earth came into being.
and they believe that the story of the creation of the earth holds the essential truth that god created the earth but they don't believe he did so in 7 days.
i think that is the way the pope in rome would put it.
fanatacal christians in america might believe something different though. |
07-31-2007, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by vegyrex Your average evangelical believes this. | When I experimented with Godliness at age 13 in order to piss off my parents, they fed that line about Dinobonez being a "faith test" to me. One of many reasons I came to reject that church in super-quick time. Though I kept going for two years, for "social" reasons.
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07-31-2007, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by shovelqueen Ok, so I have absolutley no idea about christianity and truth be told i'm very predjudice against it. however there are a few things i'm curious about so if anyone can answer a few questions for me it would be greatly appreciated.
firstly, where do dinosaurs fit into the whole equation? like god created the earth, then he created man so when adam and eve left eden, were they living in prehistoric times?
How did mankind become so big and diverse if we are all decendants of 2 people? and is it true that eve had 2 sons? if so, doesn't that make every person on earth incest?
that's all i can think of right now, but more are sure to come to me. |
first of all Adam is a metaphor and he is a SPIRIT, he is not the first man, he is the first SOUL.
This first soul's purpose was to receive inconditional love from God, but he/she/it wanted to give love to, he wanted to be like God in that respect so he took the "spiritual apple" and this Earth, this reality was created so that he and his descendants, other souls could come into this earth and learn how to love and they were "cast from paradise" and hence we are here.
And yes, God created the dinosaurs, but in the bible it says that God created creatures that "weren't right" for Earth, so he ended them, well that's what happened to dinosaurs.  |
07-31-2007, 11:03 AM
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| | | I attended Catholic Mass regularly for nearly a decade as a child, and also did CCD (weekday Sunday School) from when I was in the first grade through the 8th (from when I was six until I had just turned 14). And I never once heard this thing about dinosaur bones being a test of faith until I heard it on a Bill Hicks CD.
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07-31-2007, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildwoman I attended Catholic Mass regularly for nearly a decade as a child, and also did CCD (weekday Sunday School) from when I was in the first grade through the 8th (from when I was six until I had just turned 14). And I never once heard this thing about dinosaur bones being a test of faith until I heard it on a Bill Hicks CD. | because it's not. God created them. |
07-31-2007, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by HighClassHo because it's not. | Well, of course I don't think that. I am merely trying to make it clear that any contact with Christianity doesn't always involve this odd theory.
It's strange, I rejected Catholicsm, which I don't regret, but lately I find it looking better than the other things that pass for Christianity in my country.
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07-31-2007, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildwoman Well, of course I don't think that. I am merely trying to make it clear that any contact with Christianity doesn't always involve this odd theory.
It's strange, I rejected Catholicsm, which I don't regret, but lately I find it looking better than the other things that pass for Christianity in my country. | well what is christianity?? if we are talking about crazy homophobic evangelists then it sucks.
Catholicism nowadays is much healthier. |
07-31-2007, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by HighClassHo well what is christianity?? if we are talking about crazy homophobic evangelists then it sucks. | Well, again, that was my point. I think a lot of people probably think Christianity is only crazy homophobic evangelists (the Catholic Church is of course homophobic, but never evangelistic as far as I know – they want you to make more Catholics by breeding, not proselytizing). Even though I don’t consider myself a Catholic, or a Christian, I do think it’s important that people know the largest Christian sect (worldwide, Catholics are supposedly a minority of American Christians, but in and around NYC that’s not so much the case) is on record as having absolutely no problem with Darwin.
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07-31-2007, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Wildwoman I attended Catholic Mass regularly for nearly a decade as a child, and also did CCD (weekday Sunday School) from when I was in the first grade through the 8th (from when I was six until I had just turned 14). And I never once heard this thing about dinosaur bones being a test of faith until I heard it on a Bill Hicks CD. | In all my years at Catholic grade school I never heard it mentioned either. I even bought a kids book about dinosaurs from the school, which I still have, and it made no mention of that or creationism. |
07-31-2007, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Wildwoman
It's strange, I rejected Catholicsm, which I don't regret, but lately I find it looking better than the other things that pass for Christianity in my country.
| Pope Benedict will change that. He questions the validity of evolution. Now he's allowing the Latin mass again. |
07-31-2007, 03:06 PM
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