Hi, Im a new member to this site and I wanted to explain my personal experiences.

I said "I believe in god" all through high school and jsut went along with my buddies and parents or whatever not entirely believeving the statement.

So I went to church every once or twice a month and "pretended" to believe in god and jesus. Soon after all this happened, I met a girl emily(to protect identities). We were only dating for two weeks until we had sex.

One night, At a party we were all chillin. I drunkily made out with Emily's best friend Rochelle(protecting identities). I felt horrible and all this came out to emily then about a week later I got Mononucleosis.

It was a horrible case where my parents seriously thought I was gonna die and my doctor was surprised by how bad it was. I recovered and it has been over a year since that.

I have always been somewhat religious until one day I could say I believed in god and it wasnt because my friends or not friends it was because I truly believed in god.

What I wonder from all of you reading this is that, Do you think you have recieved gods discipline upon you after doing a Sinful Act?!

I believe I have not received his loving discipline. The fact I don't believe in him is immaterial of course, because he's omnipotent and perfectly capable of striking me down whether I believe in him or not!

If there was a God, Baby Legs would actually be able to breakdance. She so couldn't. Ridiculous. Worst. Sexual. Equality. Ever.

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Consider it this way: everything a human being has ever done, be it a great piece of musical marvel, the invention of string theories, the technologies that power the world nowdays can only be conceived, witnessed and appreciated HERE.

I'm not saying there is no God cause I cant know that and I accept my limitations. Moreover, the soul might exist and it might be undetectable by any modern or future apparatus and it's not because it's not part of the universe since EVERYTHING (and yes, even higher-dimensional planes) are part of the universe by it's very definition.

But with all of this talk about 10-11 dimensions, heaven, hell, eternity, infiniute, that all of this becomes a part of the multiverse, a part of god, but WE, as a "self" that is imprisoned within the confines of the body, brain (senses, qualia etc) ceases to be what it is, then would someone might telling me, how exactly does that make you feel any better about all this la-di-da?

Yes there may be a God, or forty of them, we may be a part of something much larger than even the infinity of our observable universe, etc etc (put in here anything that the humans can ever come up with), but it we lose the self and there is no more "perceiving" left for us to do, then oblivion is the place where we're destined, regardless of the true way nature operates.

If we start looking at nature in it's current state, at the atrocities in the world, the diseases, and everything in-between, I really do get a feeling that someone's ego has to be stroked, but within the boundaries of "natural selection", there are lots of "anomalies" (for lack of a better terms) that are not fit for survival either because they lack the "emotional characteristics" (that includes the suicide rates) or the "physical characteristics" or "talent" or whatever so who is to say we have adapted?

If there is nothing after death, then the whole progress of humans is invalidated and completely irrelevant to the "you" in post-mortem "existence" (obviously it's of vital importance while you're still here). This is not the question of meaning anymore.. You're dead...., that's it, finito and unless you're a martyr who would give his life for what he believes in or for his loved ones (which again, is a cause of an overdeveloped intellect - I explicitly refer to the idea itself, and in no way or form condone the act which is valiant and courageous). That's why i think Transhumanits have a point when they say that one should pursue the idea of immortality, using nano-bots or AI or computer-stored consciousness or whatever.

It comes down to: what is better: consciousness or lack of it?
I personally believe that is absolutely nothing wrong with oblivion and the only reason why people fear it is because you could never truly know when it sets in and once it does, there is no opportunity to truly come to terms with that

Buddhism fears the oblivion and they destory the "self" that connects is to our existence, Christianity fears the oblivion and it, yet again, disonnects us from our existence and promises rewards in the afterlife, Atheism fears the oblivion and they proclaim that this life is all there is and we should make the best use of it.

Is there a God here? That is for you to decide, but if someone here is willing to put forth the conjecture that religion was spawned by anything other than pure, animalistic, unrational fear of the finite life-span here on Earth (which cannot be justified by nothing or relished or cherished or whatever), he/she seriously has to get his priorities in check.

If anything, life has not adapted to the universe, neither in it's form, size or "intellect" so in that sense, one could comfort himself that by dying, we become much more than we could ever become as humans, we become the universe without consciousness, will, wants, nothing.

It's very simple, really. The fact that even one person over the history of the universe had died and the rest of us keep on living today, well-aware of our future demise is already a pretty good indicator of "fairness" and it can't possibly swing to it's more "moral" side, simply because nothingess for that one person is enough for me to proclaim that the universe is definetly not built for us, no matter how wonderful and marvellous it may seem for us as a whole.

If there is no continuation of consciousness in whatever way or form (like omnipotence for instance) after death - then this universe is beyond my comrehension literally in every respect.

A quote by Albert Einstein:

"I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who should survive his physical death is also beyond my comprehension, such notions are for the fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls"

i believe in a god, but i do not believe in organized religion. it all just seems a little sketchy to me.

God was talking to me earlier today and he said 'SHUT UP!'. Really, he did.

Did it ever occur to you that mononucleosis could have infected you as a result of the virus being transmitted to your body from a foreign source? Or does "god" control the distribution of viruses now?

Yes that is how Mono is spread, hence it is called the Kissing Disease. But what I was saying was I did sinful things before this and It was like all karma will come back around and bite you in the ass. What I was saying was that God gave me Mono for what I had done. And to you saying "does "god" control the distribution of viruses now?", well thats how it was written in the Bible. Read the book of Job and you will understand!

You shouldn't mistake your own stupidity of sleeping with dirty skanks, on an invisible man.

If you already have the answer in this book you mention, then why ask on here?

You speak crazy. I blame engrams.

On a related note, I picked up a 1978 edition of Dianetics for 50 cents!

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Time is the distance that you can't return by miles.

I escaped somehow. Let's go

actualy [sic] I have quite a blessed life if I'm honest. I have many people to love, hate few and have few money problem's [sic].... What more does a person need? Oh yeah and I have some kind of humbleness unlike you of course ^_^ ~ CarefulCarpenter

You over paid!

i dunno about god but i do know i am simply inside this body because i have been out of it before looking down on myself.
but you have to have something like that happen to you personally before you will understand

There are far easier ways to come to that conclusion.

such as..

Look in a mirror. Chances are it won't be somebody elses body.

yes well, i'm not completely retarded
i was referring to my consciousness

I see evidence everyday in grace and synchronicity.

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Marerophilia:
A depth of love that youth can seldom appreciate or communicate;
A love that never can die for it is a wild seed living inside us, and it is what it is;
Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown;
Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
~~carefulcarpenter

Mononucleosis story sounds like bullshitititus, as for "God."
If it exists, it is;
a) Closer to an ethereal form of positive enrgy than some Santa Claus figure.
b) it is an IT or it is both masculine and feminine. The term, "father," was only used hisorically because it was preached in a patriarchial society that wouldnt take anything seriously from something that wasn't 'a man.'
c) is not an interventionist, if it was, it wouldnt be for your retarded situation.

Mother Earth
Father Sky

Body
Spirit

Macrocosm
Microcosm

Mythos
Logos

Feminine
Masculine

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Marerophilia:
A depth of love that youth can seldom appreciate or communicate;
A love that never can die for it is a wild seed living inside us, and it is what it is;
Love: that which bonds the reality of one's being to the mystery of the unknown;
Wildflowers: evidence revealed."
~~carefulcarpenter

DONT FUCKEN MESS WITH ME

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Time is the distance that you can't return by miles.

I escaped somehow. Let's go

actualy [sic] I have quite a blessed life if I'm honest. I have many people to love, hate few and have few money problem's [sic].... What more does a person need? Oh yeah and I have some kind of humbleness unlike you of course ^_^ ~ CarefulCarpenter