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Originally Posted by dotty wokker and laugh about it all you want. you wont be laughing when my friends dos the fuck out of your hard drive.

Humans are neither artificial nor intelligent.

Humans judge....

Way to often.

Just out of curiosity: why is judging considered to be such an inherently bad thing by some people?

What, AI like in a solipsism type way?

While judgeing is part of human nature, it causes for misinformed perception. Everyone has that friend who they judged incorrectly.
Now why exactly would you consider humans AI? The whole idea of AI is that it can be created out of something non-living.
If your thinking in the sense that since "god" "made" us, then I guess I could see your point. In the eyes of "god" we may be considered artifical. But, we don't look through the eyes of "god" thus we cannot see ourselves as artifical. Thus, we are not

All hail Infinity.

I dig his/her complex life outlook

We're organic intelligence.

His, and thank you

Isn't it better than the alternative though?

Well I don't look at it like that. It isn't all black and white, there is a lot of gray. There are times when judging is appropriate, and times when your judgement should not be voiced.
If your proposing that we should always judge and heed those judgements. Then no

I've just found that normally those who think it's terrible to judge people are usually the ones that need to be judged with the closest scrutiny. I guess they mean judging people on your first encounter with them, but we all do it, and we all have to do it in order to get through life. Give everyone the benefit of a doubt and you'll be mugged about once a week. Judgement as part of an ongoing process is obviously the way forward. I guess it's possible that out of 100 people you meet who seem like complete douchebags based on first impressions a few might turn out to be really good people. But you can usually judge whether someone will grow on you or not, and if you can't, I'd rather miss out on a couple of potential friends than spend my life hanging out with hundreds of douchebags just to keep my conscience clear.

Then again, I am a dreadful person.

And that man was Neil Tenant.

My point is, that because we are human, judging and not judging someone is still a form a judgement.

Sort of. Not judging may be a conscious decision (because judgement is either a natural instinct or one we pick up very very quickly after birth), but personally I can't see that it stems from judgement.

ARTIFICIAL intelligence.

lets define artificial first..

Made by humans; produced rather than natural.

OK.. so basically, its an intelligence derived from humans.

so are you insinuating we made ourselves? i think not.

However if we could replicate our brains using similar chemicals.. what's to say that it's not 'artificial' if for all intent and purpose is a reverse engineered duplicate?

I personally think though.. instead of biological enhancements, we will look to incorporating mechanical enhancement into our biological. Sort of like boosters that will stimulate and offer mechanical assistance. Vast memory banks and such..

Or if we uncover the 'language' equivalent that the human brain uses. I personally think its something akin to binary, but much much simpler.

we've not even made something that approaches artificial intelligence, anyway. all we've made are things that are very good at fooling us that they're intelligent or that are pre-programed to react in certain ways to certain stimulus so that it appears they have understanding and the capacity to learn.

there was a guy in russia who was making what he called a "reasoning machine". we have logic machines already in the form of computers, so why not something to do our reasoning for us too? he reckoned that this artificial brain would be powerful enough to take over the world and would have to be raised very carefully (it would have to be raised like a human child which beggars the question how - especially considering it was probably just a large mechanical/electrical device which filled a warehouse). anyway, i think once you get into those areas you introduce personality into the equation. we could build two of these machines and they could disagree with one another. the russian sounds like an absolute crackpot, but he is genuinely trying to build such a machine.

you know i just realised a flaw within AI.

it presumes that humans can be the sole creators. but what if we are the creation of another intelligence?

exactly.

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Originally Posted by dotty wokker and laugh about it all you want. you wont be laughing when my friends dos the fuck out of your hard drive.