If this machine finds finger prints of other dimensions, is that evidence of spirit ?


http://news.uk.msn.com/Article.aspx?...umentid=882185

There is no evidence of "spirit", and if there was I doubt it would be proved by a machine. So: no.

so they are claiming dimensions have fingers? i highly doubt that they do

Um, shouldn't you bother explaining how having more dimensions than we thought we had could possibly suggests "spirit"?

But first, what do you even mean by spirit?

I read an interview with one of the scientists involved in this project a few months back. Essentially, she'll be studying the "fingers" or potential debris left behind that may indicate actual evidence of additional dimensions.

In terms of "spirit", I guess that all depends on how you define such a thing. I don't think it proves the concept of soul, simply since that's an element of philosophy, which is not science. However, what I do think this could enlighten us on is the odd expereinces that some write off as ghosts, or ESP or even deja vu. Dimensional physics is math and theory but the principle is pretty simple. The fact is our perception of reality is determined by our ability to percieve or sense what's around us. A fish doesn't have the same dimensional perception as a human, but that does not mean that what the fish can't sense doesn't exist. It's the same with humans. This potential debris left behind may give us better understanding of addtional dimmensions that we can't sense because we lack the ability to.

Maybe that could give a logical explaination to other ideas we still hold or wonder about, such as ghosts. What if a ghost is simply matter or energy from another dimension that is somehow sensed at different times? We know so little about the brain, so maybe it's possible that at times,certain people are just experiencing energy from another dimmension that is always around us, but much like fish, we can't normally sense it, so it doesn't exist to us?

The reason i can't associate the question of spirit with this experiment is that it only seeks to explore the possibility of those dimmensions, but it can't define whether there is a moral association with them. Spirit, or soul usually implies a sense of morality and frankly, we can't know, even with evidence of other dimmensions, what, if any, moral assocation is connected to them.

I'm sure some will take it as a confirmation of heaven or god, or afterlife, but the research can't go that far and can't explain that theory.

Not yet anyway.

Have you been reading The Tao of Physics, and the Dancing Wu Li Masters?

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even Fritjof Capra said "Physicists do not need mysticism, and mystics do not need physics", and he was an acid casualty of the Silvine order of magnitude

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No, do you recommend them ?

Very nice.


Spiritualists and people who study Metaphysics have been saying for years that we are multi dimensional beings experiencing a 3rd dimensional existence.

I realise this experiement doesn't prove anything but I find it interesting that science seems to continually lend evidence to what spiritualists claim, the multi dimensional nature of the soul and the idea that, even in the third dimension, everything is energy.

I've never read them. I remember seeing them listed in the astronomy book club catalog over ten years ago. I've read reviews of them. They apparently try to blend eastern mysticism with physics. They're both old books. One was written in '75 the other in '79. I think both are out of print. You might try your local library if you're interested.

Lisa Randall hopes to find remnants of KK particles once the Large Hadron Collider is on line. I always thought KittyKitty (KK) was a mysterious link to these other dimensions.


Where does creativity come from?

I wish I could spend more time just reading stuff.

I'm lucky because my job sometimes gives me some time to read.


BTW

Have you ever heard of Alain Aspect and his important experiment in 1983 ?



....which would suggest ....

The interesting implications of this is that light is not the fastest thing in the universe.

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~sai/hologram.html

yeahhhhh.. go on..... all you lamo's who think just because you havent experienced ghosts or ufo's or in/out body astral travel and all that .... yeeeea! just keep talking!!!

but as for that "we r living in a 3rd dimension' thing .. total b.s. - 'cause all we r doing is living in the physical. you cant not b in the physical until your actually actually dead. keep to logic, you twisted's! the truth whether u like it or not is that our soul's concious is what's doing the travelling.. we arent really outside of the physical body, yet strangely, we r. so it'd b totally incorrect 2 pinpoint it down to that we are *actaully* not in our bodies still.. it's the soul that can make u appear somewhere else as a hologram , so in that sense it is real. it's not actually *YOU* / your *verry core being* when somebody else sees you somewhere when you do these travels. it is just your projection of desire where you want to show up your very core, when you can't physically be with them, when u cant b there physically. all of this changes though once you are dead. like jim morrison's ghost, or some of those other historical accounts of certain english kings turning up in america or wherever. & people of the christian faith pass it off as demons. but they arent. it's actually *them* aka the dead person, a ghost, and only a demon in the sense of a strong spirit that refuses 2 b undr the authority of so-called higher spiritual powers. these ghosts found a way, an escape to show humanity you can do all you want if you want, that the Christian God has no power over your spiritual destiny aka the heaven & hell myth. ghosts are demon / dead nephelim, but more often so just dead average people who just wanted to hang round our physical plane. like a car crash girl ghost i knew once who lived in me & my flatmates apartment at nightime. but not demon as in a seperate entity demon playing tricks on humans to make them believe that it was a dead .. they are ACTUALLY the same spirits who were in the bodies when alive.. which *werent* possesed but just born flesh. possession is a different thing altogether. its when demons who *arent* born of the flesh take over weak minded nonspiritual or christian or athiest person only for a short period to hold & suprise those of the unbelieving & to scare the crap out of everyone. thats all!

which science fiction book did you pull all this out of?

it's called reality, darling. - something you don't seem to understand.

AHAHAHHAA!!!! a bit from THE BIBLE!! i forgot about that.

u just made all of that up...

that's not from the bible...the bible says that the dead ARE DEAD, and they will stay like that until Judgement Day...ghosts are works of the enemy to decieve people and give people false hope....

reality?? ha...hardly

i actually didn't make any of that up. just because you don't read enough. and/or haven't experienced the same stuff which proves what written aint always lies, you ignorant fuck.

false hope? a ghost has never been false hope. your treasured bible says nothing of "ghosts are the works of the enemy to decieve people and give false hope" little girl. lyyyyying little girl.

and in saying so, out would rush worried idiots of The Church to prepare up some new faked found ancient scriptures where mentioned, might i add - stollen from you! & written as quoted by, say.. Ruth, or Esther, or Mary, or Jesus, or some other Biblical character just to thwart this. Or they'd class you as some new wonderfully wise modern day woman of God gifted in flowing words of ... but we all know you are bullshit, as have proven, by the much corrospondance between you & i that exposes your warped mind, whereas mine is just purposely silly a bit. corropondance with me that you actually CANT EVEN READ (KITTYRADIO) POSTS PROPERLY!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a gift from God! Hallelujah that you have become so dumb that you can not even read properly text right in front of you, the result, may i mention again: THE HOLY SPIRIT: the diseaseful thing that plagues & doth not heal the people. but only makes them sicker. to kill this spreading disease (infact, i quite enjoy seeing what it becomes of you!) at its root would be in the healing of whole nations of individuals delluded by its powers before it spreads further: including all The Holy Spirits' side effects, actual splinter subshoot diseases of schizophrenia & all that other stuff (minus paranoia)listed in medical texts. then we'd truly have a - although never 100% safe world.. a MUCH MUCH better , exceedlingly richer, and cultivated & more pleasant looking world. without idiots like you running around preaching poop from a brain digested with nothing but ghostwriter.

Your God & his loyalist has no power over us in greater things, no true knowledge of the spiritual abodes, they (your Christian brothers & sisters) can conqeuor flesh by human force thru the warped minded irrational, but they cannot conqeour nor is there any actual heavenly court in the outer heavens (non physical sky or universe). it is all here on Earth. there is no Jah in some heavenly realm. you will never have your Kingdom of God, as it wouldnt even be peaceful cause you'd b fighting amonst yourselves as soon as you got rid of us. and there are way more demons than just 1/3rd. we equal majority - you minority. you can not stop us, for we shan't be blinded by a power labelled and personified as The Holy Spirit, the greatest deception havoc creator known to humanity. we are we - all the rest of the people of the earth!!

enough be said. for now. i need a cigarette. and a beer.

actually i've seen the Holy Spirit heal people, not induce schitzophrenia...that's more of a demonic thing...

the Holy Spirt is my comfort...He heals and delivers...He's healed people with cancer in my church...

no, He didnt. it was your BELIEF that he did! it was really you in accepting the BELIEF you'd be healed that made you healed, not *their* God. but in using the word "God" you conjure up the power of the true god/s of invisibility, the forces that can give you healing from strong belief, for being strong in that instance, because they r there (the invisible angels, in fact not JAH's angels) to do such when you call upon the word, since healing angels dont take into consideration of the environment around, but in only you you & you, and dont take consideration of which god or if it has capitals or not when you call out that word.
if you did true extensive research, which i doubt a bitch like you ever would (hahaha! i called you a dog! - even though i'm not jesus i'll say it anyway, since jesus isn't around & you love His words so much!!) ..... you'd then come to find that what your (well *my*)intuition always told me - - which was LONG before i ever learnt of it is fact - - that Jah is a made up God, and that i almost fell for it for a while as i was at a low point like you. that's the time this warped spiritual power - as in the thoughts that seed belief in a Biblical God , which is no more than the weaker powers of a sorcery magic termed & coined as actual entity (aka The Holy Spirit for the millionth time!). you must learn to conqeor this. you must start looking at yourself, Apostle888, as a pure child of the gods if you are going to have a fulfilling internally richer spiritual packed life. 'God' as in Christian .. will send you on highs & lows much like bi-polar disorder. i was getting bi polar disorder when i wasnt so concrete in walkign close with the many unseen power gods (non human).