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06-27-2008, 06:21 AM
|  | Running Blind | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Frozen Garden
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| | I defo agree with u on that point. That was one of the things my mom said to me when i came out... that she worried id get hurt or get a disease by slagging around. Which i haven't. I've had one fella and im still with him  The Dawson's Creek character (Jack?) was a good gay character. In no other show has there been a good characterisation of gay men. Queer As Folk, Skins etc all portray gay men as slags. Shows like Will and Grace portray that we're like fairies... though most of my friends are women but our relationships arent anything like Will and Grace... its more human and real.
And the fact that gay men are seen as a must have commodity too... | 
06-27-2008, 08:43 AM
|  | Inventor of the Rapedar | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: nTown, UK
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| | | It's kinda beside the point as well though; even if I'm not a Dawson's Creek-style angel of emotional maturity, it's still wrong to assume that I would have a venereal disease, especially in a hospital situation where it'd be really easy to check.
Just wondering now what the cost of AIDS-testing a person is. They might JUST ABOUT be able to justify this if AIDS-testing any blood that's donated by a "high-risk group" is prohibitively expensive (or at least, more expensive than all the money they spend whining about how there aren't enough donors). | 
06-27-2008, 12:03 PM
|  | Running Blind | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Frozen Garden
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| | Which the NHS is always trying to say.. they never have money to do these things... High Risk people are always just gonna be that to them... cos they dont wanna spend the money. Money... evil stuff..
And it makes me laugh personally as if people were to meet me and get to know me i'm possibly the least slag-ish gay person u could meet lol  | 
06-27-2008, 12:16 PM
|  | Inventor of the Rapedar | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: nTown, UK
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| | | I don't know though, wouldn't it be cheaper than doing all these blood drives and organ donation campaigns? They've found that gay people are very willing and motivated towards sperm donation - I guess they feel it's their way of contributing to society in lieu of children - and most would be more than willing to give blood for the same reason.
Oh yeah, that's another thing: far as I'm aware, there's no such bar on gay people donating sperm. FIGURE THAT ONE OUT? | 
06-27-2008, 07:50 PM
|  | Running Blind | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Frozen Garden
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| | | They want my sperm but not my bone marrow!?!?! Yikes! Fucked up NHS... thank you Labour! They sure know how to make people feel shit... but to give them credit they have done somethings to help gays i suppose.. | 
06-27-2008, 08:00 PM
|  | duh! | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sao Paulo
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Originally Posted by AshMcAuliffe They want my sperm but not my bone marrow!?!?! Yikes! Fucked up NHS... thank you Labour! They sure know how to make people feel shit... but to give them credit they have done somethings to help gays i suppose.. | what the fuck
what the fuck
you can´t do that because you´re gay?
there isn´t such thing as "high risk group" not anymore, and surely they can and have to test everyone?
isn´t that discrimination?
call the media | 
06-27-2008, 08:02 PM
|  | Running Blind | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Frozen Garden
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| | yup! but cos im gay and "high Risk" they justify it that way 
fucking bigots!!! | 
06-27-2008, 09:38 PM
|  | repose most louche | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: feasting with panthers
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Originally Posted by AshMcAuliffe Yup... gay men in the media piss me off... Making everything seem so light and fluffy all the time... I hate it when i speak to people who assume being gay is about being and acting like Graham Norton, Will and Grace etc... its annoying. | Soz Ash if I veer a little off topic but can I just say that Peter Tatchell should be canonised, or at the very least, have a plinth in his honour. While Nelson Mandela "hemmed and hawed" over the current state of affairs in Zimbabwe, Peter Tatchell had the guts to attempt impose a citizen's arrest on Robert Mugabe for crimes against humanity, and had seven shades of shit kicked out of him by Mugabe's thugs in the process. Could you even IMAGINE someone who must be all of about 9 stone soaking wet taking on Mugabe and his henchmen?? I used to think Peter Tatchell was a whingy little "cause" queen but my opinion of him has been completely revised over the past few years and, IMO, he's a fantastic role model for gays/queers/dykes/LGBT's - as opposed to annoying lavender cliched comedians and "entertainers".
End of tangential "Peter Tatchell idolatry", your post just prompted me to say something.
As you were... 
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06-27-2008, 09:47 PM
|  | Running Blind | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Frozen Garden
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| | | I soooo totally agree with ya!!!! And im glad ya mentioned him! He works so fucking hard for gay people and he aint given hardly any recognition at all! He deserves a knighthood but will that happen? nah... mostly likely cos hes gay! | 
06-28-2008, 09:54 AM
|  | ShortOrderCookOnABender | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: reading
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Originally Posted by AshMcAuliffe Because my brother has leaukemia... and because im gay i aint allowed to be a donor for him. Its so unfair
I guess i could lie... I mean ive been tested and im clean... | that's fucking retarded. and i completely understand your frustration. it's ridiculous.
i remember the first time i gave blood, a couple of years back, i went with a friend from uni and i was shocked to find out that he wasn't allowed to donate because he was gay. at this point he'd been in a monogamous relationship for three years and he and his partner had both been tested for HIV and other STIs. i could have slept with a hundred people and have every disease under the sun as far as they were concerned (i haven't, but the point is they didn't ask) but because i was a girl and he was a gay man, he was automatically "high risk" and i wasn't. the nhs are crying out for blood donors and they turned a healthy young man away just because he's gay.
for what it's worth though, the nurse we spoke to that day agreed with us that it was completely ridiculous. | 
06-28-2008, 10:13 AM
|  | Running Blind | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Frozen Garden
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| | | What is with the health service?! It needs reformed... and money needs put where its needed and if it means spending extra cash on checking gays blood so that they can give blood and donate marrow then so be it! | 
06-28-2008, 10:39 AM
|  | be still, cody | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: port-au-patois
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| | | i hate you being gay also. and here.
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06-28-2008, 12:55 PM
|  | duh! | | Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sao Paulo
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Originally Posted by AshMcAuliffe What is with the health service?! It needs reformed... and money needs put where its needed and if it means spending extra cash on checking gays blood so that they can give blood and donate marrow then so be it! | call the media
if they have to spend money to save lives
itīs their duty
thatīs why everyone pays taxes | 
06-28-2008, 03:46 PM
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| | | the media would just trivialise the whole situation... but its a good idea... gonna set up a petition me thinks to get the ball rolling i think... | 
07-03-2008, 11:01 AM
|  | standing on the beach.... | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: six feet under
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Originally Posted by AshMcAuliffe What is with the health service?! It needs reformed... and money needs put where its needed and if it means spending extra cash on checking gays blood so that they can give blood and donate marrow then so be it! | then it comes a privacy and health issue. it's fucked and you wouldn't get gays donating if the donations we not annonymous.
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07-03-2008, 11:25 AM
|  | Running Blind | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Frozen Garden
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| | | you're right... the entire system is fucked...
my rage has settled down slightly now... what im gonna do is still do the test for my brother... but lie... im clean so i dont see what the problem is. or is this wrong? | 
07-03-2008, 11:38 AM
|  | I'm the hot one. | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Dying 100 times
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| | | I'm gay and on roaccutane. I feel like donating blood out of spite..
mutated babies w/ aids ftw | 
07-03-2008, 11:42 AM
|  | standing on the beach.... | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: six feet under
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Originally Posted by AshMcAuliffe you're right... the entire system is fucked...
my rage has settled down slightly now... what im gonna do is still do the test for my brother... but lie... im clean so i dont see what the problem is. or is this wrong? | i think that's a great idea!!!
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07-03-2008, 12:25 PM
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| | | i just dont like the idea of lying ... but fuck it! If my brother wants me to do then im gonna.. even if it means lying. | 
07-03-2008, 12:27 PM
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