I don't know if any of you have heard of this society already, but I only read about it today on a philosophy journal and found it interesting - I hasten to add that I don't mean by this I found their ideas convincing - so I thought I'd share. They basically say that giving children a good start in life involves introducing them to sex too, through incest (e.g. a father giving his daughter a good sexual experience gives her a good start in this aspect life, without involving exploitation or sexual disease.)

Obviously our intuitive response to this is that it's abhorrent, presumably one of the first reasons you think of is that it is because it lacks consent. But then, children haven't consented to any aspect of their upbringing; their food preferences, their moral codes, I'm sure you can think of lots more. So why do we still find this particular kind of "initiation" so repugnant? What is it about the particular sexual quality of the experience that makes it worse? And is this worse than normal child abuse?

I ask that because Alan Goldman would say it wasn't, as sex should (according to him, and numerous other philosophers) be judged according to normal moral codes. "Just as the fact that an act is sexual in itself never renders it wrong or adds to its wrongness if it is wrong on other grounds." (From "Plain Sex")

I think the question of whether it is "worse than normal child abuse" or not, is rather irrelevant/unimportant. It's like asking "what's more dangerous, a lion or a tiger".

A child is not emotionally mature enough to deal with sex. Even their bodies aren't well enough developed. A child does not need a parent or other adult to "teach them about sex", most people find out about sex on their own when they are OLD ENOUGH, ie when they're adolescent or young adults. I assume you weren't sexually abused as a child; do you believe you were deprived of something? Obviously not, eh...

This whole thing just reeks of self-rightous perverts who want to justify their behaviour by intellectualising it and projecting it on innocent children.
Giving them the time of day and taking this seriously is kind of disrespectful to all of the people whose childhoods were ruined by incest and sexual abuse.

i'm basically not touching this topic with a ten foot pole

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