Thoughts?

I just watched this last night. It's a good thing I'm not nauseated by lots of blood, because this was the most intense film I have ever seen. Rob Zombie's films will never make me cringe - even just a little bit - ever again.

I found this a very disturbing film, but I'd watch it again as it was entertaining. The story is very interesting and I think it was a well made film. The sex and the violence looked very real and raw and were good contrasting images. (The many shots of fucking started the film and the many shots of stabbing closed the film...with a bizarre combination of the two in the middle.)

Plus someone told me that Charles Manson is being released on parole next week...Is that true?

He'll never be released. That isnt true at all. Besides he isnt up for parole next week. Check out the website dedicated to all things Manson and the case etc...

As for that movie, I recently purchased it, and thought it to be meh. Was very raw, obviously, but some of the actors portraying the people didnt fit, most notably the guy who played Manson himself, and the stupid cult like kids who for some reason had a part in that movie were not needed.
We get it: Manson still has a hold on certain people, even today.


I found the very first Helter Skelter film to be the best of the bunch.

I agree with you about the random 1996 situation...it really was not needed... I still thought it was a good film though.

Have you read the helter skelter book?

I was pregnant when I saw it and when they are chasing and stabbing Sharon I cried so much. I felt sick! Fukcin looser people.
The film in general wasnt very good..

Yup, I have. I liked that book a lot.

I really want to read "Helter Skelter" now.

And rent that film.

Sounds like they didnt stay 'true' to what really happened during the murders, if, in fact, Sharon Tate is running while getting stabbed. Anyone who knows the story is aware she was the last to die at Cielo Drive and was held on the floor by Sadie while Tex stabbed her through the chest.

I've heard about the film & I've got a few questions: Is the true story of Charles Manson or just during the murders in the late sixties?
Who plays Sharon Tate?
What is "Helter Skelter"? I just know that it's a Beatles song that I love & I also heard that it inspired Manson's murders... so HS is another film plus a book?

Thanks

"Helter Skelter" is the #1 true crime bestseller of all time, written by Vincent Bugliosi who was the prosecutor in the case against Charles Manson and the three girls who committed murder for him (Susan Atkins aka Sadie Mae Glutz, Patricia Krenwinkel aka Katie and Leslie Van Houten, I forget her alias).

I've not seen the film and am not really interested in seeing it. What is interesting is to read Manson's philosophy, largely influenced by the Bible, and what he called "Helter Skelter" (taken from the Beatles White Album, but also his own demented vision of the apocalypse)

Manson would also sometimes say Helter Skelter was just another one of his terms for mass confusion, panic etc. He was never prone to actually admitting what he envisioned Helter Skelter as really being in his own mind.

But yeah, Helter Skelter was a race war that he figured would get started after he perpetrated those crimes on the "white establishment", or Pigs as he called them. Another term he took from the Beatles white album.
Bugliosi tends to also believe that he singled out the Tate house because he may have thought Terry Melcher still resided there.

i enjoyed the second helter skeltor. more so because id seen the actor in other roles, and then watched an hours worth of his videos he made trying to "get" the characteristics of manson down. this guy was in many ways obsessed, but his performance was seen by some of the family members and was given praise for being extremely accurate at times


i dunno, it didnt really phase me. watching the movies based on them, they always try to one up each other on the amount of blood they use, and how crazy they "really" were. so after a while its like "well these people have no idea what happend so, whatever."

it was an awful thing that happend but i also dont get the whole obsession with sharon tate. she wasnt that great as an actress and its very sad she died when she did, but it happend and people dont need to idolize her. I'd much rather see an in depth story of polanskis time after her death. anything having to do with her has him painted in the worst light because of what would happen much later on...

but im rambling now.

There were 2 major interviews with charles manson, that were spose to be like famous or watever. I read the transcripts for one and he just really annoys me. You can't get a straight answer out of him. Its just annoying. He does have smart moment, buts I really cant commend him and say he's fantastic. Because he is not, he is morally retarded and was a little fucking pussy.

people who think hes this amazing idol of some sort are the same uneducated people he took advantage of back then. People who ramble on and never just flat out answer a question straight on, are usually some of the dumbest people you will meet. They avoid questions because they dont know the answers but still want to come off as brainy. thats what he does. plus he fried a lot of brain sells and wasnt really educated in the first place.

exactly. he asked prison officers to keep him in jail. l o s e r.

I've heard a bunch of places that he doesn't even want to to be out on parole.

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If you haven't seen the original, 1976, get it. They have a remake of it, i believe and it's just awful. It hink it came out in 2004.

i read on a newspage a couple of weeks back his parole was coming up. its highly doubtful he will ever be released though. he loves being in prison. not like he gets bored or anything he gets so much sick fanmail its disgusting.

He's next parole hearing is in 2007.

Did anyone ever see that thing on vh1, something confidentials or whatever. The theory was that since Manson didn't get a recording deal through Terry Melcher, he sent his "family" out to Terry's house to kill him. But Terry had already moved and it was the Tate house.