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Old 07-03-2006, 01:15 AM
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Did anyone ever see that thing on vh1, something confidentials or whatever. The theory was that since Manson didn't get a recording deal through Terry Melcher, he sent his "family" out to Terry's house to kill him. But Terry had already moved and it was the Tate house.
yep. he used to hang out with the beach boys and candice bergan. he wanted revenge for being rejected.
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Old 07-03-2006, 01:45 AM
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I watched a few documentaries on the manson women and another on charles. The most interesting of the girls was Squeaky Fromme. She wasn't involved with the murders directly. She's the only one that, if I recall right, still stays true to manson. She attempted an assassination on President Ford, escaped from prison a few times in attempts to go see manson. She still seems crazy.
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Old 07-03-2006, 01:52 AM
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I've heard a bunch of places that he doesn't even want to to be out on parole.

He says that because he knows he isnt getting out this time anyways, and also because basically, he's been inside these institutions for most of his life, since he was 9.

Anyways, he does at times make some pretty valid points that I almost want to agree with, except he then says something totally sick that really doesnt make any sense in relation to what he is talking about.

He speaks in tongues and shit...but he is very charismatic and quite witty. He's fascinating, and could easily star in his own reality tv show.
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Old 07-03-2006, 01:56 AM
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Something I didn't know:

Manson studied Scientology in prison, not sure how long, but had 150 hrs auditing, that the heads of scientology tried to deny.
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Old 07-03-2006, 02:01 AM
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Manosn discussing Melcher, among doing other "interesting" things:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xioCGmZVoqw

and this shows pretty clearly just how much Manson had a hold on some of his followers..like Susan Atkins:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLNHfVcLV1E
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Old 07-03-2006, 02:05 AM
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He speaks in tongues and shit...but he is very charismatic and quite witty. He's fascinating, and could easily star in his own reality tv show.
They should give him his own reality tv show in prison. I'd watch. And system of a downs ATWA can be the theme song! There wouldn't be any need for any other cast members. ha.
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Old 07-03-2006, 02:06 AM
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They should give him his own reality tv show in prison. I'd watch. And system of a downs ATWA can be the theme song!

haha, good choice!
I'm not into reality tv at all, yet in this case I'd be all up for it.
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i've only read the book helter skelter, never seen any of the movies though.


it's interesting, but...yeah, i get so mad at those kids that walk around in "charlie loves me" shirts and stuff. they get on my nerves. idolizing a evil person...good idea.
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Old 07-03-2006, 09:53 AM
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Just shows how ignorant they are.
Im sure they would think differently if they actually grasped the reality of what he manipulated others to do.

If he had a tv show, I would watch out of curiosity, not because I support his sickness though.
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yeah, i get so mad at those kids that walk around in "charlie loves me" shirts and stuff. they get on my nerves. idolizing a evil person...good idea.
MY e-mail address is charliemansonlovesyouall@hotmail.com
I dont idolize him, its meant to be ironic....not that Id go as far as a shirt.
Hitler ends up as the butt of many jokes,, even on clothing, but does it mean people are idolizing him?! Looking up to him!?!?!
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Old 07-03-2006, 11:38 AM
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MY e-mail address is charliemansonlovesyouall@hotmail.com
I dont idolize him, its meant to be ironic....not that Id go as far as a shirt.
Hitler ends up as the butt of many jokes,, even on clothing, but does it mean people are idolizing him?! Looking up to him!?!?!
i know a few people who do. young kids DO idolize false icons.
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Old 07-03-2006, 11:41 AM
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i know a few people who do. young kids DO idolize false icons.
Then there's an epidemic of stupidity run amuck in the youth of today then.
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Old 07-03-2006, 11:44 AM
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Then there's an epidemic of stupidity run amuck in the youth of today then.
of course there is, on the news today kids were caught in a primary school with drugs. primary school ffs. ahhhh.
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i enjoyed the second helter skeltor. more so because id seen the actor in other roles, and then watched an hours worth of his videos he made trying to "get" the characteristics of manson down. this guy was in many ways obsessed, but his performance was seen by some of the family members and was given praise for being extremely accurate at times


i dunno, it didnt really phase me. watching the movies based on them, they always try to one up each other on the amount of blood they use, and how crazy they "really" were. so after a while its like "well these people have no idea what happend so, whatever."

it was an awful thing that happend but i also dont get the whole obsession with sharon tate. she wasnt that great as an actress and its very sad she died when she did, but it happend and people dont need to idolize her. I'd much rather see an in depth story of polanskis time after her death. anything having to do with her has him painted in the worst light because of what would happen much later on...

but im rambling now.
Agreed on Polanski. Totally adore him, and if I could dredge it up at the moment, I'd post the picture of him from Life magazine sitting on the porch of the house after Sharon was murdered. His autobiography is quite fascinating, and Roman stated that he cannot pack a suitcase without thinking of her, as she loved to travel.
As for the Tate obsession, I suppose that stems from morbid curiosity. No, she wasn't the greatest actress, but I believe she showed potential. She wanted to get into comedy anyway, which was more her forte. Besides, all Sharon wanted to do after getting pregnant was have a family with Roman and most likely quit acting.
I also agree with you about Manson, and I'd quote that post too, but I'm getting quote crazy here anyway.

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Then there's an epidemic of stupidity run amuck in the youth of today then.
That's nothing new. Stupidity in youth has been occurring since time began.
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Old 07-03-2006, 12:02 PM
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Tate isnt really idolized. I wouldnt say that. She was a very beautiful looking woman and she got butchered...I think that sort of thing is what gets to people.
In fact, Manson has easily surpassed Tate and the others on name recognition alone.

But yeah, it happened to a hollywood starlet..B starlet or something maybe, but all the same, she was connected to Roman and Hollywood will jump on that story, no matter what.
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Something I didn't know:

Manson studied Scientology in prison, not sure how long, but had 150 hrs auditing, that the heads of scientology tried to deny.
U fucking liar.THAT has been officialy rulen a LIE by Scientology sources.U would only say this coz u are afraid of Scientology.u are AFRAID!!! FEAR is the BIGGEST motivater!!!
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I was told ages ago that the last song on GnR's Spaghetti Incident was written by Manson, don't know how true that is.

I've got the film and the book Helter Skelter and find it amazing that someone can have so much control over people. No I'm not a Charlie fan but I do like reading about murderers and stuff like that.
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If it's "look at your game girl" then yes, it is a Manson song.
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Agreed on Polanski. Totally adore him, and if I could dredge it up at the moment, I'd post the picture of him from Life magazine sitting on the porch of the house after Sharon was murdered.
http://www.charliemanson.com/polanski-1.htm

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http://www.charliemanson.com/polanski-1.htm

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Thanks. I found that site before, then lost it. People questioned Polanski's relationship with Sharon, but I think the look on his face explains it all.
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