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Old 11-21-2008, 03:11 PM
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i know, there's an almost 40-year-old woman in my class who reads the books and i was like "oh god...." sure enough, i've learned she has the brain power of a 12-year-old.
My mom's smarter than that! I don't understand why she's obsessed. But making fun of her has been pretty awesome though.

I just don't get this whole Twilight thing. Read Interview With The Vampire people JESUS!
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My mom's smarter than that! I don't understand why she's obsessed. But making fun of her has been pretty awesome though.

I just don't get this whole Twilight thing. Read Interview With The Vampire people JESUS!
sorry, i didn't mean to insult your mom.
i think it's just a girl thing and i'm just not gay enough.

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that's the different between Bottom 100 and Top 250.
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Does anyone else's snobsenses get enraged by the likelihood that a good chunk of the English speaking world will never read a book that wasn't aimed squarely at 12-16 year olds and written accordingly?

I didn't get the animosity towards adults reading Harry Potter unashamedly until I actually read some. I don't know, tbh, if most of that animosity was BECAUSE of the content of the books (rather than them being "for kids"), but Jeeeeeeesus.

I mean, fair enough, if you want kids to read stuff, it has to be easy, fast paced, and not especially challenging. Surely there's a limit?
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sorry, i didn't mean to insult your mom.
i think it's just a girl thing and i'm just not gay enough.
LOL I'm in no way gay enough for this.

No harm done, sometimes I think she does have the mental capacity of twelve year old.
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well the Sookie books seem like they're more for real teens. i guarantee you the same people who rushed to see High School Musical 3 are going to see this movie. and that makes me not want to see it the most. i'm sure the books are good and everything, but the guy who plays the lead in this movie is just fucking hideous. is he supposed to look that ugly in the books?
oh i totally agree, i just finished reading twilight and it really does read like bad fanfic. there's def a drinking game or two to be made out of the repetitiveness of the characters (how many times do edward and bella need to go 'i luv u!!!1' 'i luv u 2 but i mite eat u!!!1 i am DANGERUS', so it's def in the hsm bracket, but there's also this weird thing where it spans alot ages (i'm 26 and know lots of girls my age that read teen books and this series in particular) because as i mentioned to my housemate who enquired what i've been doing the past few days, i've been basically reading mills and boon for perpetual teenage goths. there's just something really appealing about an enduring love story, however badly written/directed. i sort of found myself swooning inwardly when they finally caved into their feelings

what i will say is, i imagine the author of twilight is going to get a hell of a bitchslap from feminist critics over how wimpy and boycentric her female lead seems to be, i mean the girl is beyond normal teenage obsessiveness, she seems to be incapable of anything without edward. that coupled with the oopsy daisy i cant walk down the street without getting run over aspect of her character is just really depressing.
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My mom's smarter than that! I don't understand why she's obsessed. But making fun of her has been pretty awesome though.

I just don't get this whole Twilight thing. Read Interview With The Vampire people JESUS!
seriously, it's like mills and boon, that's why yr mamma is obsessed, and the reason people read it is because it's sooooo easy to read. i reckon we all want a quick fix of obsessive love without having to wade through wuthering heights. imagine if they made a teen version of that? (has anyone?!) good god.
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oh i totally agree, i just finished reading twilight and it really does read like bad fanfic. there's def a drinking game or two to be made out of the repetitiveness of the characters (how many times do edward and bella need to go 'i luv u!!!1' 'i luv u 2 but i mite eat u!!!1 i am DANGERUS', so it's def in the hsm bracket, but there's also this weird thing where it spans alot ages (i'm 26 and know lots of girls my age that read teen books and this series in particular) because as i mentioned to my housemate who enquired what i've been doing the past few days, i've been basically reading mills and boon for perpetual teenage goths. there's just something really appealing about an enduring love story, however badly written/directed. i sort of found myself swooning inwardly when they finally caved into their feelings

what i will say is, i imagine the author of twilight is going to get a hell of a bitchslap from feminist critics over how wimpy and boycentric her female lead seems to be, i mean the girl is beyond normal teenage obsessiveness, she seems to be incapable of anything without edward. that coupled with the oopsy daisy i cant walk down the street without getting run over aspect of her character is just really depressing.
wow. i find it absolutely hilarious that the lead in the book is a girly, wimp who needs her man and girls irl ages 8-100 are obsessing over that. kinda takes a whole step back in women being independent & able to take care of themselves, undoing what slasher films with strong female leads that kick ass have done since the late 70s. and her character gets run over? i might youtube that scene if it's hilarious enough whenever a version comes out on the internet.

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LOL I'm in no way gay enough for this.

No harm done, sometimes I think she does have the mental capacity of twelve year old.
apparently no gay man is.
thank god.
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wow. i find it absolutely hilarious that the lead in the book is a girly, wimp who needs her man and girls irl ages 8-100 are obsessing over that. kinda takes a whole step back in women being independent & able to take care of themselves, undoing what slasher films with strong female leads that kick ass have done since the late 70s. and her character gets run over? i might youtube that scene if it's hilarious enough whenever a version comes out on the internet.



apparently no gay man is.
thank god.
oh she doesnt literally get run over but the book is peppered with moments of PERIL for her, because she's clumsy and seems to attraction the wrong kind of attention (being backed into an alley by BAD MEN from whom only the vampire hero can SAVE her), but there is a scene where she nearly gets hit by a car careering out of control and edward leaps across the carpark to save her and take the impact. it's a huuuuge slap in the face for female characters, but then, it's obv written by an overly wistful chocolate loving teenage goth. who pushes aaaall the right buttons in terms of 'archetyal things girls like'
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haven't you seen the author? she's a 30 something year old stay at home mormon mother. :| she got the idea for the book from a DREAM. ugh.

and she's really proud that she wrote like 5 and a half books in three years. i wouldn't be boasting if i were her.
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yes! haha it explains why the whole books are one giant cocktease! and then wrap up with the most horribly boring ending ever.
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yeah i looked at the wikis for the rest of the books as i figure i'm not going to read them, the story just gets progressively stupider and lamer and it sounds like nothing really bad happens to anyone, ever
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yeah i looked at the wikis for the rest of the books as i figure i'm not going to read them, the story just gets progressively stupider and lamer and it sounds like nothing really bad happens to anyone, ever
of course not, everything always works out for idiots.
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twilight had a segment on NPR San Francisco last night, and i almost died.

listening to some 60 year old man detail the plot, talk about tweens and goth/emo appeal, and the swoonworthyness of the male star, on NPR radio was really entertaining, in a pathetic way. and all about how the author is a repressed mormon, who had to push her sexual desires into fantasy fiction writing about vampires.
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and she's really proud that she wrote like 5 and a half books in three years. i wouldn't be boasting if i were her.
Yeah, it's like, it's a lame achievement, and Barbara Cartland already did it way better.

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yeah i looked at the wikis for the rest of the books as i figure i'm not going to read them, the story just gets progressively stupider and lamer and it sounds like nothing really bad happens to anyone, ever
That's fan-fic for you. No beginning, no end, and nothing can change much in the course of the story.
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I have to admit, I've read all four books. Did I enjoy them? Sure fucking did. Why? Because they were absolute shite. I enjoyed reading something where I can unashamedly hate every fibre of the protagonist's being.

I thoroughly enjoy reading books that I can rip to shreds. I'm not going to lie: I spent the whole time I was reading them going 'oh fucking hell Bella get a life. I hate you, you moron.' And I enjoyed every second of it. Am I going to see the film? Sure am. Do I want to bite Robert Pattinson on the bum? Yup. Am I more than slightly embarrassed by this? Yes. Can someone help me please?
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that nutty madam chick was pathetic. at times she acted like she was either having an orgasm or trying to take a shit. lame.
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How does it compare to Buffy?
(Both movie and series)

Because I just see Vampires and Highschool and my mind makes that obvious leap.
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