To each his/her own, and milage may vary, and all of that, but I got a kick out of watching the familar elements of the Batman myth come together. It's an Orgin Story.

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I can't wait for this to come out.

It isn't a remake, it's a reimagining. Hah! I'm going to my bedroom to masturbate. I may be some time.

I think Prince should do the soundtrack for this one. There were about ten seconds of brilliance in Batdance that should have made a whole song, and a whole pile of blah.

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ledger seems to have really nailed the joker's essence. even his promotional still shots have impressed me. i read somewhere that ledger had specifically studied batman issues with the darkest version of the joker. fucking great. i have no idea why burton/jack felt the need to make him into a cartoon.

i mean, compare this:



to this:

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when that bitch breathes, the air comes out crooked.

he wasn't a cartoon, he was terrifying:



but ledger's joker seems interesting too. and i think "the killing joke" was one of the batman stories studied for the part, which is really brutal and disturbing. and a clockwork orange and sid vicious are supposed to be other influences. i also read that heath ledger kept a joker diary to get in character. a journalist interviewing him last year mentioned it in the article, and one entry was a list of things the joker finds funny, with AIDS at number one. he should post here.

i think he's only terrifying to people with clown phobias, really.

look at him. he's one step away from stephen king's "it."

i read that article. that interview is precisely the reason why i have faith in ledger's performance. i would really love to see the contents of that journal, too. when i read that he had listed "AIDS" amongst the things that the joker would find funny, i thought that an actor had finally gotten a grasp on who the joker is.

lest we forget:

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Fuck "Batdance", what about "Lemon Crush"?

"When I'm workin'
At my job-a
I'm the victim,
You're the robba..."

Fucking brilliant.

I actually found a copy of the Batman '89 soundtrack in the used bin at FYE back in like March or something, and when I squeed and scooped it up, my uber "I'm too cool for shit like that" friend looked at me like I was fucking INSANE for intending to buy it. Which I might add, I fucking did.

As for The Dark Knight, this movie is going to be fucking sick. Especially the dynamic between Gordon, Dent and Wayne/Batman working to round up the criminals, and how some of the inspiration was taken from Batman: The Long Halloween, not to mention the lingering influence on both films that Frank Miller's "Batman: Year One" has had.
And not to mention on top of all of that, I thought it was badass how Nolan's Batman has a Batmobile that strongly strikes me as having been influenced by the fucking tank he drives around while he's fighting skinheads in Batman: The Dark Knight Returns.

i think this thread should be turned into an epic appreciation thread for the original tv series.

Robin's a Cock. Do Not Appreciate.

I liked Catwoman though.

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eartha kitt?

The kicking ass while invisible is fine, but it wouldn't make you invincible!!
e.g. In the rain, dusty environment etc you'd be easy to spot,
and a bullet etc would kill you just as quickly.
Being invisible won't make you any better at man handling etc...
So, I reckon on its own its no good.
Would it extend to other objects?
if not, you could only use your hands, or body etc,
and if your hands were already deadly weapons then you'd have no need to be invisible in the first place ...

Nah, invisibility on its own is pretty hard to effectively weaponise.

And who says perving massively is totally useless

I always dread films with so much hype surrounding them but this one actually sounds like its gonna live up to it. Finger crossed....

I love when someone (is it Batman?) bends over in front of Robin, and Robin says "Holy manhole, Batman!".

I think that's real. Otherwise I dreamed it and I apologise.

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lol @ Jack Nicholson looking so FUCKING RIDICULOUS compared to heath ledger.

Seeing that picture makes me realize that Burton, his cast and his creative team didn't grasp batman AT ALL. If anything, Burton's films were a bit darker than the 60's cartoon and joel shcumacher's was the film version of the 60's cartoon.

I am so glad Batman Begins got made and now this.

lol @ burton's films being a bit darker than the 60's show. have you ever actually seen either? the reason the schumacher films got made was because batman returns was so fucking nightmarish that kids were leaving the theaters in tears. so they went family friendly with the next one. albeit, family friendly with lots of homoerotic subtext.

the reason batman begins works has nothing to do with how dark it is, because both burton films beat it in that department and are also visually superior.
the strength of batman begins is that it respects the characters more than any of the other films.

have to say I am loving the tagline What Doesn’t Kill You Makes You Stranger for the new movie. still worried the new joker is just going to be your typical hollywood by the numbers pyschopath. well I say worried, it dosn't exactly impact on my life if he is.

also, I wish they wouldn't refer to everything as the bat... "alfred, run the batbath, I have batcramps." it's so campy.

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I like the dark myself, which is probably why I prefer Batman to Superman, but again, hello CLOWN SUIT. FULL-ON-FUCKING CLOWN MAKEUP WITH PERMAGRIN. JOKER. Burton & Nicholson didn’t make any of this up. It’s a pretty legitimate interpretation – I think the worst thing you could say about it is that it’s the most obvious interpretation.

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it's impossible to debate with you but I'll try.

First of all I don't remember any kid leaving the theater in tears. And second, the movies might have been darker as far as colors and set design goes but when you go deep into the script it's not very dark and it is a bit cartoony.

I think batman begins is darker because it has more depth, it goes deeper into the character, even if visually it's "lighter".

I mean it's like the joker on both versions, I'm looking at those two pictures and to be honest jack nicholson does look like a more refined version of cesar romero, while heath ledger IS the joker come to life.

I've been a fan of batman all my life and I know the joker is not a clown, he is dark, he's freaky, he's evil, he makes no sense whatsoever and he's scary as hell in the same way a hit and run accident is, or a shark attack. It's tragic and it comes out of nowhere and you had no preparation for it.

I don't see anything of that in Batman 1989, maybe it's in the script but the ridiculous origin story and the ridiculous look just tarnishes it everything.

Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate the burton films. I can appreciate the set designs, the brilliant music, the mood all that but after seeing nolan's version, to me there is no match. It's like they don't even exist.