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06-04-2008, 06:36 PM
|  | hole.com kid since 2000 | | Join Date: Jun 2006
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| | | history misrepresented in film gimme some examples pls
braveheart is the best i can think of. its co clearly...wrong
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06-04-2008, 07:45 PM
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| | | Kingdom Of Heaven
Troy
Those are the obvious ones.
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06-04-2008, 07:50 PM
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| | | i couldnt bring myself to watch those. but ive heard theyre also v wrong
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06-04-2008, 08:02 PM
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| | oh fuck ive bitched about this with about three different movies this week and now i cant think of a single on. but this irks me so bad when they do this.  | 
06-04-2008, 09:06 PM
| | be still, cody | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: port-au-patois
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Originally Posted by Amity Troy | the trojan war is semi myth, possibly all myth. troy the film was probably more historical than the iliad it was based on as they left out all the gods except thetis.
U-571 nearly caused a diplomatic incident BBC News | ENTERTAINMENT | Storm over U-boat film
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06-04-2008, 09:27 PM
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| | | The kid's ones... Anastasia, Pocohantas. | 
06-04-2008, 09:29 PM
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| | | pretty much every western ever made is historically inaccurate.
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06-05-2008, 06:47 AM
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| | | Dick is a satire and all but it's a fictionalized account of the whole watergate thing. And it rocks!!!!!!!! | 
06-05-2008, 06:50 AM
|  | Phil Goff | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Westport, New Zealand
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| | | Pretty much every film ever set in the past, ever. I suppose it's natural given that they're usually making films to entertain/make money, not be used in history class in lieu of historical documents. I let them away with a little fiction to massage the story along, so long as it isn't egregious... and egregious is about the least I could say about Braveheart (which I didn't even find entertaining).
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06-05-2008, 06:57 AM
|  | Phil Goff | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Westport, New Zealand
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Originally Posted by seethelight Dick is a satire and all but it's a fictionalized account of the whole watergate thing. And it rocks!!!!!!!! | I love that film. Films which make no pretence of being remotely historically accurate are excusable, because if you judge them on how representative they are of what really happened you're kind of missing the point. I imagine Dick was a lot closer to the truth than many people would want to let on...
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06-05-2008, 07:00 AM
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| | | that cate blanchett elizabeth film was pretty... off.
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06-05-2008, 07:52 AM
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| | | ooo in what sense? i havent watched this since i was about 15 and i think i was too oblivious back then to notice the inaccuracies. | 
06-05-2008, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by shitty weave ooo in what sense? i havent watched this since i was about 15 and i think i was too oblivious back then to notice the inaccuracies. | its the equivalent of taking... perez hilton & writing a biopic of britney spears or lindsay lohan based on it a few centuries from now. it basically relies on tabloid-style information that is speculation at best.
i'm gonna cut & paste form wiki some of the most glaring inaccuracies, but there are a bunch more:
* The real Robert Dudley did not betray Elizabeth, and remained a loyal subject until his death.
* In the film, Elizabeth I, much to her shock, finds out from Sir William Cecil that Robert Dudley is married, whereas in reality Elizabeth was well aware that Dudley was married, since she attended his wedding. [While it is true that Elizabeth I knew that Robert Dudley was married to his first wife Amy Robsart (and she did indeed attend their wedding), she did not know about his second marriage to her cousin, Lettice Knollys, and was furious when she discovered the truth.]
* In the film, Elizabeth I is courted by Henri, Duke of Anjou. The two never met in reality, as the actual proposal was for her marriage to François, his younger brother. François came to England and the proposal became a very serious prospect, although it was never fulfilled.
* William Cecil was not even 40 years old when Elizabeth began her reign, contrary to his cinematic portrayal as elderly. He was not retired by the young queen, either. He remained one of her most trusted advisors until his death, shortly before hers.
* No evidence exists to support the claim that Walsingham was involved in the death of Mary of Guise.
* In the film, and as emphasized on the cover, Elizabeth has bright blue eyes (the natural colour of Cate Blanchett), however, Elizabeth is well known for having the deep amber brown eyes of her mother and the brightly red coloured hair of her father.
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06-05-2008, 08:05 AM
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| | shakespeare in love
I'm sure it set out to be entirely fictional in it's plot but I can imagine a few viewers actually thinking it's biographical
* noteworthy references:
The Patriot, Apocalypto, The Last Samurai, 300 and Gladiator. | 
06-05-2008, 09:53 PM
|  | chanel meth pipe. | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: 7th ring of hell?
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Originally Posted by BleedingHeart Apocalypto | i remember watching that and being like wtf. they completely implied that the maya fell to the hands of the spaniards when it was infact the inca who were illiminated by the spaniards. no one knows for sure how the mayan civilization ceased to exist. | 
06-06-2008, 05:33 AM
|  | Phil Goff | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Westport, New Zealand
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Originally Posted by shitty weave i remember watching that and being like wtf. they completely implied that the maya fell to the hands of the spaniards when it was infact the inca who were illiminated by the spaniards. no one knows for sure how the mayan civilization ceased to exist. | And the Aztecs, who are totally the coolest!
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06-06-2008, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by bort I love that film. Films which make no pretence of being remotely historically accurate are excusable, because if you judge them on how representative they are of what really happened you're kind of missing the point. I imagine Dick was a lot closer to the truth than many people would want to let on... | You might like 'Churchill: the Hollywood years' then | 
06-06-2008, 06:12 AM
|  | Phil Goff | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Westport, New Zealand
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Originally Posted by ava__adore You might like 'Churchill: the Hollywood years' then | If it's a good film, I think I might. I want to see Jesus Christ: Lust for Glory.
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06-06-2008, 07:43 PM
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