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It was explained what happened to him in X-Men: Last Stand the official game.
what was it then???

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Styker's son wasn't quite dead. Well, he's good side was dead and he was helping Nightcrawler as a ghost to try and stop his bad side from taking over and destroying all the mutants. Nightcrawler destroys the Master Mold but Sabretooth grabs the bad side of Styker's son and runs off. Wolverine stops him. After all is said and done, the world and all mutants are saved, Nightcrawler goes to Xavier's office to tell him something. Xavier already knows but Nightcrawler tells him anyway.

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"I can't stay here Professor. This isn't the life for me"

Xavier understands and lets him go.
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well, it makes sense, the movie version of him didn't quite seem the all-action type. but he could have hung around the library or something and they could have talked him into helping when he was needed.

bit wary about the next films. To be honest, the x-men franchise has been good but it's not quite got the all conquering force that spiderman, batman and superman have, comic books movies are the thing right now, and commiting to another load of x-men films maybe isn't the best idea. spiderman, superman and batman will do well whether comics are in or not. (i obviously say this not because i'm worried about Fox's profits but because I was a fan of the x-men comics and i don't want to see hashed up films of them being made.)
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Even if they do make another round of movies, i think it will lose its appeal, simply because it will probably seem over done and lose the story. A 'more for show' type deal, which would be sad.
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well, it makes sense, the movie version of him didn't quite seem the all-action type. but he could have hung around the library or something and they could have talked him into helping when he was needed.

bit wary about the next films. To be honest, the x-men franchise has been good but it's not quite got the all conquering force that spiderman, batman and superman have, comic books movies are the thing right now, and commiting to another load of x-men films maybe isn't the best idea. spiderman, superman and batman will do well whether comics are in or not. (i obviously say this not because i'm worried about Fox's profits but because I was a fan of the x-men comics and i don't want to see hashed up films of them being made.)
I'm suprised they made a decent third one. Batman 3 lost the plot, and the series wasn't revived until begins. It seems, till this point, comic book movies don't go well in threes.
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I saw it the other day.

Overall, it was entertaining and proficient but nothing out of the ordinary. The first two were much more efficient at what they set out to do. Last Stand introduced too many characters badly, some of them weren't properly defined and to all of you who think that comic characters actually don't have any personality or character you're wrong in this case.

I was disappointed Rogue didn't feature more and her hair was tarded, why couldn't they leave it the fuck alone!? And for Storm's hair, it was slightly better than X2 but still it lacked the craziness of the camp 90s Storm.

Kitty Pryde aka Shadowcat was generally annoying but then again I don't like the character that much.

Best perfomances given by Ian McKellan and Halle Berry.

Effects and fight scenes much more exciting this time round. I'm thinking the budget was huge but it was worth it. Introducing the new character's powers was pretty good yet if I didn't have a reasonable knowledge of the characters I would've been completely lost.

So, yeah, anywho, it was good, and entertaining and worked well as a good action romp but didn't do justice to X2.

I think we can all agree X-Men(the first one) was just horrendous.
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this phoenix and the comic phoenix are not the same though. the comic phoenix is an alien entity that saved jeans body in cocoon at the bottom of a lake and took a replica version of her with increased powers out into the world.

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exactly... i don't see how she can bring herself back to life if the phoenix is just her other self.

i don't think the lake thing happened in the comic, i think they were in a spaceship and the force got in there somehow. other x men hosted the phoenix as well
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rogue never got to show her full powers, they turned her into a silly little girl. she would never have taken the serum in the comics.
She would have, actually, and she went after a cure in the comics. I appreciated the fact that whoever wrote this movie thought it best to not just follow the comics--to have consequences.

Nobody has to stay dead--the Phoenix has the power to restore anyone from the dead. But the problem is, audiences won't necessarily accept the same pulpy nonsense solutions to so many problems in the casual way which comic readers suspend their disbelief.

There were a lot of nonsense things about the movie, but the height of the book, in the Claremont days, was even more ridiculous. I respect them for departing from the rather staid sci-fi vibe of the first two movies, making this one the first truly comic bookish movie of the trilogy. I'm surprised by my happiness at Singer's departure--I thought X-men 2 was terrible, but I expected Ratner, with his terrible work so far, would ruin this.

btw... if Magneto hasn't lost his powers, it seems fairly obvious that Rogue's will return as well, renewing her psychodrama. They could still introduce the Ms. Marvel plotline where she got her powers of flight, strength and invulnerability. Even though she was a villain when she accidentally stole Marvel's powers and memories, it could happen by accident on a normal mission in which she had to take the powers to survive. :nerd:
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I DIDNT STAY. and that pisses me off.

RIGHT when we stepped outside the fags from the 11:59 showing of it were like "GO BACK GO BACK STAY UNTIL THE END FO THE CREDITS"

umm... we were already outside fucknuts.

i'll have to wait for the dvd or go see it again.
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my bf told me that in the comics, rogue has all these other powers they never show in the movies, because apparently she had to kill this other mutant to get them .. they must've wanted her to be seen as the sweet naive innocent character? i thought it was good that she took the serum.
umm.
also. why did he have to kill jean?! couldnt he use the serum or something. i know she's a phoenix and everything, but really!
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my bf told me that in the comics, rogue has all these other powers they never show in the movies, because apparently she had to kill this other mutant to get them .. they must've wanted her to be seen as the sweet naive innocent character? i thought it was good that she took the serum.
umm.
also. why did he have to kill jean?! couldnt he use the serum or something. i know she's a phoenix and everything, but really!
see this is what i was saying at first. like why didnt wolverine put in some of the serum in his pocket but it was hard enough for wolverine to get to her considering his skin was getting blow away. id imagine anythign he maybe have been holding would have been blown away as well
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i had a lot of problems with it. i don't see why they felt the need to squash all these stories into one film. the phoenix saga was so much more than they made it, and they handled it very badly.

rogue never got to show her full powers, they turned her into a silly little girl. she would never have taken the serum in the comics.

kitty pryde was also wasted, they didn't do enough with her.

i didn't think they explained magentos reasons enough. he seemed like just the bad guy at points here, when really he's always the one i've understood and supported. the bit where he showed his tattoo was good, but i always wished they pressed his background more. the comics went into great deal about it and he frequently talks about the holocaust in them.

i did think mystique and beast were good in this one though.
this is a movie adaptation, it is impossible to fit the phoenix and the dark phoenix saga in a 2 hour movie and stray away from X2. Considering that, I think it was handled well.

Rogue's power is the ability to steal people's energy/powers/memories. The super strentgh and the flying were never her powers, she just permanently absorbed them from Miss Marvel. Taking that into consideration, the film Rogue is a faithful adaptation. The conflict of not being able to touch anyone is present in all three films, and that was always present in the comics/cartoons. It was impossible to fit the Miss Marvel thing in the movies, then it wouldn't have been and X Men movie, it would've been a Rogue movie.

I don't remember what happened on the comics but on the cartoon I remember when Apocalypse invented a cure for mutants Rogue was interested and she checked it out, she chose not to cure herself but she did consider it, so I thought it was great how Rogue cured herself in the movie. And let's face it, it's fucking real. I'm sure lots of people wished they weren't black or gay, or didn't belong to a minority.

They don't have to explain Magneto's reasons in this movie, they already explained them extensively on the first movie, there's no need to show it again on this one.


Phoenix was very scary and I thought it was great. When she had like the dark eyes and the fucked up skin, it was frightening. I never thought they would die and it may sound morbid but I think it's kinda cool. It's totally different and out of the box.

What happened to Mystique was very sad. But Rebecca Romijn looked GORGEOUS with that black hair. And Mystique was cool and I left wanting to see more of her, she was such a cool character.


Ian McKellen was amazing as usual. I feel so proud that he's gay. Sexist comment I know but I love that fact. He really is like the larger than life figure in this movie, he and the Phoenix.

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they were some mistakes and maybe some things could've been changed but overall the X Men trilogy is an OUTSTANDING comic book adaptation. It's faithful to the comics and it has the essence.

People are all caught up with the Spider Man movies(wich is a lame superhero) but it was the first X Men movie that raised the bar for super hero films to a whole new level that completely outshone any other super hero movie ever done. Yes! even the Batman films.

So I'm very pleased with this trilogy.
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definately. its the best adaptation from any comic book/cartoon/ video game i've ever seen.

the only batman film i enjoyed was batman returns and thats all thanks to catwoman...other than that xmen beats them all by a landslide.
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