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Old 05-01-2007, 11:38 PM
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Last Days

ok, another reason to hail To Die For as the only Van Sant movie. That movie was so great an ORIGINAL and innovative, using compleltely different genres(interview, documentary, drama) and weaving them together. And Kidman, amazing as usual.

Now back to this dreadful movie. I couldn't see it all but I saw the last half of it on tv, fell asleep and can hardly remember it.

I only remember two things about it. First is the scene where Blake plays a song on his accoustic guitar, and it was beautiful.

And the second thing is, that I discovered why I hate movies like Last Days, and it's that they cheat themselves out, I don't know how to say it but they make you aware you are watching a movie and they always feel unnatural.

It happened in the scene where Blake is running from some guys and he plunges in the ground and the camera gets stuck in the air, staring blankly at plants.

The camera is meant to be your eye, and your eye doesn't work that way. You don't stare at an open space for a good who knows how many minutes without blinking. I'ts impossible and when youm see this in a movie itĄ's utterly uncomfortable and makes you aware that there was a camera there with a crew, it's just lame. I don't know if that's the point to this pointless frames but I think it's lame.

I liked when his soul left his body, that was beautiful but that's it. Uggh, another director I'm completely over with.
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:03 AM
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shut the hell up you havent even seen Drugstore Cowboy and refuse to so you cant judge by saying To Die For is the only good Van Sant movie.
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I found Last Days really slow, but appreciated what he was going for. I really wanted to walk out during the Boys II Men scene which felt like it alone was 5 hours long. I didn't see Gerry, but felt like this style he was playing with was better realized in Elephant than it was in Last Days. Michael Penn was good, but he wasn't enough to make the movie anything I'd rec to anyone else. To Die For, while fun, felt almost too John Watersy to me, it was all so phoney, I just couldn't get into it. Psycho was a waste of time. Even Cowgirls Get The Blues was terrible and had that same sense of remove that made To Die For not work for me. I really enjoyed a lot of My Own Private Idaho, there's some really lovely work in there. Drugstore Cowboy works for me as a film in total, but I don't think has really anything special happening. Did I forget any Van Sant films?
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I still havn't seen it because i can't decide whether it's worth watching or not. I hear mixed reviews all the time. Can I just ask.. is it actually about Kurt.. or based on kurt.. loosely or...?

I did see a trailer though and I wasn't that impressed. But that was only a trailer. I havn't seen any Van Sant films before.
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Woah. I hated it, but I know there are people out there who like it. Who? I don't know. But somebody does, I am sure of it.
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I still havent seen it though I want to. I dont think I'll like it. The camera thing you describe, there's certain techniques that annoy the fuck out of me like that, that make you all too aware that there is a camera.
e.g. Children of Men, not too far from the end, the shoot up in the street and blood gets splattered on the camera lense and it stays there. Some people probably thought that was genius but it ruined it for me.

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i liked the concept and the acting.
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I have to agree with Drugstore Cowboys being great - I mean if only for the hat on the bed bit. I love To Die For, but I think My Own Private Idaho is brilliant. I didn't much care for the style of Last Days. You will likely hate Elephant too HCH. I liked Even Cowgirls Get the Blues which one is not "supposed" to like. What was the point of Psycho? None I tells ya.
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I have to agree with Drugstore Cowboys being great - I mean if only for the hat on the bed bit. I love To Die For, but I think My Own Private Idaho is brilliant. I didn't much care for the style of Last Days. You will likely hate Elephant too HCH. I liked Even Cowgirls Get the Blues which one is not "supposed" to like. What was the point of Psycho? None I tells ya.
I HATED HIS VERSION OF PSYCHO. HATED IT.
probably the first film i've seen that actually made me ANGRY. so angry. why would you try to recreate a masterpiece? i'm sure i spent some of the film just yelling at my tv.
after that i decided that i would never watch another film of his again.
unless someone can convince me that drugstore cowboy is worth my time, because i fucking hated all his other films. most overrated director ever.
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I found Last Days really slow, but appreciated what he was going for. I really wanted to walk out during the Boys II Men scene which felt like it alone was 5 hours long. I didn't see Gerry, but felt like this style he was playing with was better realized in Elephant than it was in Last Days. Michael Penn was good, but he wasn't enough to make the movie anything I'd rec to anyone else. To Die For, while fun, felt almost too John Watersy to me, it was all so phoney, I just couldn't get into it. Psycho was a waste of time. Even Cowgirls Get The Blues was terrible and had that same sense of remove that made To Die For not work for me. I really enjoyed a lot of My Own Private Idaho, there's some really lovely work in there. Drugstore Cowboy works for me as a film in total, but I don't think has really anything special happening. Did I forget any Van Sant films?

oh I don't know, I just love To Die For. My only complaint about that movie was Joaquin Phoenix' acting, it was just way too dumb. He should've downplayed it a bit, the character was not supposed to be a moron, he was just dumb, but he came across as havign some brain problem or something.

Other than that I think it's a perfect movie and it's innovative, something that he has desperately tried to do in his latter films but have failed at it. TDF, weaves together different film genres, like completely exclusive things like the documentary and the drama, who thought both things could work together in a movie you know?? it's always been either a drama, the camera is not there movie, or a documentary, it's real life type of thing.
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I still havent seen it though I want to. I dont think I'll like it. The camera thing you describe, there's certain techniques that annoy the fuck out of me like that, that make you all too aware that there is a camera.
e.g. Children of Men, not too far from the end, the shoot up in the street and blood gets splattered on the camera lense and it stays there. Some people probably thought that was genius but it ruined it for me.
oh yes, I agree. Those things done badly ruin it for me.
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I have to agree with Drugstore Cowboys being great - I mean if only for the hat on the bed bit. I love To Die For, but I think My Own Private Idaho is brilliant. I didn't much care for the style of Last Days. You will likely hate Elephant too HCH. I liked Even Cowgirls Get the Blues which one is not "supposed" to like. What was the point of Psycho? None I tells ya.
oh I hated Elephant, yet people love it. I don't get it.
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Woah. I hated it, but I know there are people out there who like it. Who? I don't know. But somebody does, I am sure of it.
I liked it. Even saw it twice. So there.
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i own last days, saw it twice. the second time was only giving it a second chance to redeem itself.

i'm with HighClassHo, the only scenes i liked were the one with the soul leaving the body, i thought it was creative and well done for what it was. and i liked the acoustic song he played. the rest of it was slow and kind of boring, save for the comedic running around with a rifle bits. i thought it was shot in that art school student artsy to a fault sort of way that i also despised Elefant for having.
for example, the scene where blake is playing all the instruments and he keeps adding on and on and there is this like 9 year long shot from out the window. that was ridiculous, i think. and when blake drops out of screen for a while, there's no reason for me to be staring at a bunch of greenery, if that's what i wanted to see i'd flip on planet earth.
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I liked it. Even saw it twice. So there.
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I want to see my own private idaho..have wanted to for years but its just one of those i keep forgetting.

I like Elephant. Think the style really works for that film. But i totally hated last days. Probably one of the only films I have actually yearned for it to be over so I could leave the cinema. I didn't leave as I was hoping it would redeem itself in the end, but by the point of that before mentioned 100 hour scene of them playing music - blah. awful.

maybe van sant was trying to prove a point by making the worst film ever, but still getting people to say they appreciate it through pure pretentiousness, and those who don't just like it don't 'get it'. aha!

only bit i liked in it was Kim Gordon
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i liked to die for, elephant, drugstore cowboy etc but i didnt like last days either. maybe its because i had ideas in my head about what happend and this film didnt answer the questions. in fact it made it boring.
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