ok so the plot is vague at first, it's about some new york irish gangsters and their tragedy, then it gets crazy.

i thought the plot writing was excellent, and i didn't see the ending coming. the episodes are more like mini-movies?

anyway it's a crime-gang-mob-drama

p.s. all the donnelley brothers are super hot.


you can watch the full premier episode here:
http://www.nbc.com/Video/rewind/full...onnellys.shtml


it airs monday nights at 10pm

I loooved that last night. The ending was crazy. And they're hott. Basically this post has no purpose cause it's just a summary slash repition of yours, but I totally agree :P

Fuck this not having an edit button.

but, it think this show really goes out of the tv-crime-drama box, which network tv rarely does. it seems like a show that'd be on hbo, but is instead on nbc. sortof like, the office, or arrested development. i was impressed.

I've heard great things about this show already from reliable sources. I wish I had the energy for TV shows.

I watched the pilot on Netflix so my impression of it has faded somewhat... I enjoyed it but I got annoyed by how (except for Tommy) the brothers were portrayed as stereotypical brawling, boozing, Black Irish hotheads. BUT of course there is the unreliable narrator to consider (which is an interesting device for a TV series, even though I already can't stand that character), plus Tommy was the center of story so naturally everyone else was one-dimensional in comparison... I already watch "Heroes" on Mondays so I think I will stick with it to see how the characters develop.

Interview with the creators:
http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultim...;f=36;t=006007

Interviews with the actors:
http://www.ugo.com/ugo/html/article/?id=16815
http://www.ugo.com/ugo/html/article/?id=16817
http://www.ugo.com/ugo/html/article/?id=16818

The Real Black Donnellys:
http://www.crimelibrary.com/classics/donnelly/

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well idk if i like it, i prefer italian mafia, but mayeb i'll watch the second episode.

so wait.
~QUESTION THAT HAS A SPOILER?~




did the good brother die? cuz i kind of fastforwarded it. & then couldn't rewind.

no, there was a big twist.

the good brother, knew that the bad brother had to visit the italian mobsters and pay his due (getting the shit kicked out of him, and probably beaten to death), and his brother sean is on his deathbed in the hospital.

so, the good brother calls the cops and rats out jimmy (bad brother) about the truck theft, knowing that they'll arrest him and jail him and put him in rehab. this move would also save jimmy's life, as if he's in jail - he's protected from the italian mob.

but, by putting jimmy in jail, tommy then became the irish mob leader, by default.

and then they cut to jimmy (bad brother) as he was going to jail, and they said "this was the day that changed both their lives", as jimmy decides that sean's likley death and his arrest aren't worth it, and jimmy vows to become good -- then tommy, who has lost one brother to jail and one brother to death, both at the hands of the italians, vows to avenge this and he becomes the bad one, and the new and unlikley mob boss.

and i think sean may die. maybe not. it seems like he's going to though, but may do a big recovery as a plot twist.

OHHH ok.

now i get it.

well, that was actually a good twist, had i not fast forwarded it.

i haven't watched it yet, but i used to have a crush on the guy that is in it that was also in sleepers and virgin suicides. he's hot.

I love this show.

meh they could be hotter

Preview of 2nd episode from http://theblackdonnellys.blogspot.com/ (it really is not too revealing, no more than a TV Guide listing but some may consider it a SPOILER):

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You deceive yourself. Suffering is amusing and may even do work in a situation where two people are connected with each other. Where there is no mutual connection it is undignified, grotesque and ugly. It is seen to be something totally pointless and unnecessary, like all the rest of the suffering human beings do every day. There is now no relationship between us and I find your contortions merely embarrassing.

ok... so tonight's episode..not as good.
i'm dissapointed. then again, it's only halfway over. maybe they'll be a really good twist at the end?

Well, I've been sick so I fell asleep after closing my eyes to avoid the endless sledgehammering of Louie's dead body... so was there a twist at the end? I liked Joey's attorney.

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You deceive yourself. Suffering is amusing and may even do work in a situation where two people are connected with each other. Where there is no mutual connection it is undignified, grotesque and ugly. It is seen to be something totally pointless and unnecessary, like all the rest of the suffering human beings do every day. There is now no relationship between us and I find your contortions merely embarrassing.

i really like this show.

the characters in that show describe like everyone i know.
but with less tattoos.

theyve totally mastered the boston/southern new england stereotype

also, i get the feeling this is supposed to be like an irish version of the sopranos.

ok, can anyone find this web exclusive episode?
because i can't.

at the end of last night's ep they said you could log on to nbc.com and watch a never before seen episode... and it's totally not there.

i was really bored yesterday so i followed the link you posted and watched the pilot.


i agree that it is like an irish, young man's sopranos. though i also do agree with whoever said that the other brothers besides the main one (tommy? i forget alreay) need some more development. he's vastly more intersting than anyone else, the girl included. and thats a bit of a problem. this could come together though as the weeks go on...

this episode felt like a mini-movie and just reminds me how far serialized drama has come. its dark, violent, and alot of story devices that i am used to seeing more traditionally in films and on HBO. it didn't blow me away, it has potential though, someone knows what they are doing, they just need to get deeper into some of it IMO.

though i found it strange that the entire story is resting on the shoulders of this narrartor, whose credibility was established from almost the first minute as totally questionable. it leaves a kind of uncertainty hanging over the events we are seeing. its kind of at the back of the mind whether or not something is going to turn unexpectedly based on that.

i really didn't like the second episode & i don't think i'll be continuing the series.

i guess the irish don't interest me like the italians do.