The video wouldn't play for me because my computer SUCKS.
But isn't this her?



If so, she's not that ugly at all.

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I CARRIED A WATERMELON

did you ever hear of the expression "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"?

It also saddens me that there are girls here putting so much emphasis on what Tobi looks like and totally ignoring what she's done. She was a fucking good drummer and BK are a great band. Fuck what she looks like.

It doesn't matter what she looks like. Dating a member of Bikini Kill was good for credibility.
Ever read Kurt's journals or one of his interviews? He was obsessed with PC'ness and what was perceived as cool.

But now I know why Bikini Kill didn't give many interviews. They're boring.
The ten second live clip was the best part. Tobi and Kathleen's insipid gum-flapping just took up space.

OK,

Me thinking out loud in this forum “I thought she was cuter" is beyond retarded since I was addressing an alleged feminist chameleon. My reason for doing so however is because she has dated some of the coolest and cutest rock guys. I'm being honest here, and this has nothing to do with her worth as a "feminist" but I thought Toby would have been a killer looking punk rock babe. Instead she looks like my fat neighbor next door, which is funny. UGh....? Hell even Courtney Love had a hot "fuck me' grunge girl vibe/look going for her back in the day, so did Kim Gordon, and Kat Bjelland and Kathleen Hanna- but Toby falls short of anything that is star or even ART material.

Sorry girls. AS a female it's in my nature to check out other girls.

But my second and most important comment is- frankly, I miss Toby Vail's point. BK was all into female empowerment "pick up your guitar, do what the guys do" but all I get from them is alot of whiny self absorbed mind trips. They spew out anger and bitterness and resentment without real in depth solutions. I'm pretty certain that chanting "huggy bear" into a microphone is not going to produce the same results as one female telling another female "go to school, study Law, or Medicine or Finance, get your masters, get a job then kick major boy ass- then you can drive them off stage.."
All I get from Bikini Kill is a bunch of bored college girls that don't want to take showers and their only purpose is to entertain angst-ridden highschool journal keepers by fooling them into thinking that their music is truly social commentary. Sorry kids, writing "whore" on your arm only leaves marks on your bed sheets- not on society.


It's cool if you love them- they don't appeal to me and they never will.

-Marilyn