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Old 12-01-2006, 09:12 AM
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There is a new movie of Cleopatra in the works, Scott Rudin producing. What do you think?

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Old 12-01-2006, 11:01 AM
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I hope it's better than the first one. Also, I hope they are historically accurate and cast a BLACK WOMAN as Cleopatra.
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Old 12-01-2006, 11:07 AM
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I hope it's better than the first one. Also, I hope they are historically accurate and cast a BLACK WOMAN as Cleopatra.
well you can't be certain but there are very high chances of Cleopatra NOT being black.

She was Macedonian of decent, and her dynasty respected the tradition of marrying brothers, so I can totally picture her being white.

That "Cleopatra was black" controversy started because some inferiority complex tormented black people said the white man was robbing their heritage by saying Cleo was white. How pathetic.

Anyway, Cleopatra with Liz Taylor is somewhat very accurate. what kinda bothers me is how over the top it is, and it's not very realistic lookwise. I mean you can totally see 60's fashion in Elizabeth's wardrobe and stuff.

It would be cool to see an at least visually accurate Cleopatra.
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Old 12-01-2006, 11:28 AM
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well you can't be certain but there are very high chances of Cleopatra NOT being black.

She was Macedonian of decent, and her dynasty respected the tradition of marrying brothers, so I can totally picture her being white.

That "Cleopatra was black" controversy started because some inferiority complex tormented black people said the white man was robbing their heritage by saying Cleo was white. How pathetic.

Anyway, Cleopatra with Liz Taylor is somewhat very accurate. what kinda bothers me is how over the top it is, and it's not very realistic lookwise. I mean you can totally see 60's fashion in Elizabeth's wardrobe and stuff.

It would be cool to see an at least visually accurate Cleopatra.
It's possible that her grandmother was nubian, so I think she was at least, a quarter black. If you look at the sculptures at the time made of her, she did not resemble a person of European ancestry (Liz). But then we must remember that nearly everyone during that time had a little "sumthin sumthin" in them because of all the race mixing that was going on between the Greeks and the Africans.
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Old 12-01-2006, 11:30 AM
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It's possible that her grandmother was nubian, so I think she was at least, a quarter black. If you look at the sculptures at the time made of her, she did not resemble a person of European ancestry (Liz). But then we must remember that nearly everyone during that time had a little "sumthin sumthin" in them because of all the race mixing that was going on between the Greeks and the Africans.
that is not true. I mean I'm not saying she was blue eyed and fair haired, she might've been kinda latin looking or something, who knows, but the few coins and busts that remain of Cleopatra, consistenly depict her as a very caucasian woman.

Specially the coins, with the long nose, uncommon in black people.
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