Although I am most definately not a lesbian, I would much rather see a pair of breasts in a film than a little flacid penis.

I think that is so sad, that that was the state of Hollywood at the time. It was like a witchhunt. It ruined people like Mae West, Betty Boop(lol), etc.

I must say that Colin Farrell's efimerous cock shot in Alexander is quite sexy. That's about it.

Peeeeeenis... whoa whoa whoa PEEEEENNNNISSSSS.

Ewan MacGregor in "Trainspotting" (not exactly big... but Scotland is cold).

Eric Skaarsgard in "Kinsey" (a grower, not a shower)

Kevin Bacon in the shower in "Wild Things" (Kevin is packing a rod)


Just thought I'd give you phallus fans something to look for.

Back to the "old actress/old actor" thing:

My prime example of an older man that was not particularly handsome in a conventional way but had a WWWWAAAAAAAYYY younger leading lady in real life as well as several of their movies: HUMPHREY BOGART. By no means, a glossy hunk. But from reading Lauren Bacall's autobiographies... a beautiful, stunningly handsome man to her, kind, smart, fun, loving. She was nineteen and he was in his late thirties when they got together, he was married to a very violent alcoholic at the time. They fell deeply in love and were together until his death from cancer (she writes in her book she would carry him into the living room when people couldn't see, so their friends could come have cocktail hour with them. She took care of him until his last breath, and said he was the love of her life, no other man came close).

We could get all Darwinian on the subject: women of breeding age are always going to be considered more attractive as mates to men of all ages... the desire to procreate, or the urge, whatever. It has gone on from time out of mind that much older men have much younger wives, girlfriends, etc. etc. It is always up to the woman to submit or not (it used to be, marry who you're told to or die, and in some countries it still is).

But then I think of some great women leads who kicked ass and took names, beautiful women who men couldn't get enough of , even when they were over thirty (what a fucking joke that THIRTY is considered OLD in women):

Katherine Hepburn in "The African Queen" (forties)

Bette Davis in "All About Eve" (forty)

Marilyn Monroe... she died at thirty six, but was still considered to be a "sex goddess", whether that was to her detriment or not is to be debated.

Sophia Loren. Enough said about her!!!

Catherine Deneuvre (sp).

Susan Sarandon

Geena Davis (since "Thelma and Louise" was brought up, both women were over the "magic age" when they starred in that, and both still get roles and look great)

Gena Rowlands in "Gloria"... and I cannot say enough about her in this role. The first TOUGH woman vigilante movie about a former Mafia girlfriend who is trying to protect a bookie's son. She is beautiful in it, wearing Ferragamo and Halston, shooting mobsters, and dealing with a brat of a boy who she has fallen in love with and is trying to keep from getting killed. It was made in 1980... directed by her husband, John Cassavetes, who never seemed to have a problem with talented actresses of all ages.

Meryl Streep. Still classically beautiful and one of the best actresses ever.

Emma Thompson. Tell me she wasn't GORGEOUS as the angel in "Angels in America"??? Even the gay guy dug her.

And yes, Sharon Stone, who regardless of the lameness of the sequel, looks fantastic. Her and Madonna share a hyperbaric chamber or something.

Madonna. I loathe her, but totally respect how healthy she is and how terrific her body looks.

Kate Blanchette. I just think she is the most beautiful woman in the world. I don't know how old she is , but I think definitely over thirty. Great actress and just uniquely stunning.

And honestly, (sidenote): I prefer older men to younger men, from my own experience, of course. Younger men, especially if they are very handsome, have not a clue how to sexually satisfy a woman. They never have to learn, they think just being gorgeous gets the job done. Bullshit to that.

Oh... and Viggo Mortensen is a major piece of ass. Not really an "older" actor yet, though, but scruffy in the Lord of the Rings trilogy. All my girlfriends went gaga over Orlando Bloom with his bad dye job. Not me. Give me MANLY!!!

Ugh I cannot stand this type of attitude. It seems all women are brain washed into thinking male bodies are "like soooooooo grosssss ewwwww penises!!!" Give me a break. Male bodies are equally as beautiful as womens. Just in a different way. Art also, in fact. Statue of David anyone? Shit I don't know why everyone is so opposed to embracing the male muse.

I love the penis. I think it's a beautiful thing. It's cuddly and cute when not busy, and throbbing and firm when awake. The skin is silky and the head is usually a groovy purple color when engorged. Penis is just alright with me.

Balls, on the other hand... well, that's a toss-up!!!

i loved that film! she was just so damn... words fail me but wow yes what a role and what an actress. i never even bothered to see the remake starring sharon stone.

Peter Sarsgaard.


And I concur with Humphrey and Viggo. I also prefer older men and Tomas Milian and Klaus Kinski films serve as my porn.

there really is no sexier man than colin farrell. I can almost imagine his bad smell, totally manly.

Bad smells are not manly, just unclean. No wonder he fucked Britney. They probably had Cheetos afterwards instead of cigarettes.

Huhuhuhuh.

So true...

I think they are manly. Somewhat. Boys always smell, don't you think?? but they are like good bad smells. Like cigarrette. I love it. Also, this may sound weird, but there are people who's sweat smells really nice.

As a piano player myself, what I find most annoying about this film is how she mimes playing so badly. I mean, waving her head around looking at the sea and all that while she's supposed to be playing Michael Nyman's score on the piano? I mean, I know it's repetitive but not so much so that you could play it without even looking where your fingers are.

I totally agree with the OP, but how could anyone not when the question is set up in that way? I mean, how many people are going to come on here and say "Well, I for one think it's pretty great how women are presented as sex objects in films".

I used to think that male bodies were more functional and practical, female ones were more beautiful. Now I tend more towards thinking that they're beautiful in different ways. The main obstruction to having more naked men in movies is the censors and most mainstream films want as low a certification as possible so that they can get the biggest audience (= £££) and breasts are more acceptable than cock. I mostly have a problem with unnecessary female nudity, when it's not even needed in the plot, like in moronic horror movies where they'll be wearing stupid impractical clothes. I don't think we need a lot more male nudity to balance this out, maybe just less of the female stuff.

This is an interesting thread. Carry on...

it's gotten so bad that there are rarely real women actors, just "actresses" who just so HAPPEN to be beautiful. when i saw the dukes of hazard last summer i got so fucking annoyed because jessica simpson wasn't even acting! all she did was walk around in a bikini! when the role is just to be sexy i get mad. its fake.

I know I'm offended by this.

No, seriously, in late night TV porn, you can see the vagina, the boobs, the asses, but never the penis. Why? "OH! We don't want to offend any of the good Christian people watching porn at 3am."

Right. I don't get it.

But in One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest all of the women are either megasluts or huge bitches, except for that one upstairs nurse. Then again, the men aren't perfect either, so it's not TOO misogynistic.

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