im still nuseing nick to sleep and would like to stop this,
its so hard to get him to sleep, he fights me even tho he is very tired he just will not go to sleep without lots of nuseing and rocking and then he ususally wakes up about a half hour with in falling asleep, we wont let him cry it out but its geting very frusting because hes so cranky at night but just wont go to sleep

elizabeth pantley no cry sleep solution really helped me with baby #1. check her website too. also look to askdrsears.com for sleep advice. these helped me immensely as i too nursed her to sleep. it helped when i gave up the nighttime battle.
http://askdrsears.com/
http://pantley.com/

yup, it's definitely the pantley book you want

pantley is about to come out with no cry potty solution!

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grays anatomy.

hit him with it.

It's not cruel to let them cry it out. I used to coddle my little girl until she fell asleep, but after 3 months of sleep depravation I took my aunt's advice and let her go it on her own. You don't just dump them in the crib and leave them to the wolves, like some people imply. You select a bedtime (preferably around the time they go to bed now) and then stick to it. You can also try giving the kid a bottle of breastmilk, and when they are done it's time for bed. That way it's not a constant flow. If they need comfort there is nothing wrong with a pacifier. I was so against them at first but then one night at 3am when I was ready to scream I gave one to my daughter and I got a good stretch of sleep.

thats your opinion. i do believes its cruel to let them cry it out. my opinion.

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by pure force of will
i look down on the world
from the top of this lonesome hill
and you can run, and run some more
from here all the way to singapore
but i will carry you home in my teeth
-mountain goats

leting him cry it out isent for me eather, also i live in a dluplex and i dont want to bother the people next door, once i nurse nick to sleep he asleep for the night and will sleep for 12 hours so im not sleep diprived, i just have to fight him to go to sleep every night

have you checked out the websites yet? if so, what did you think?

Letting them cry it out doesn't mean that you throw them in the crib and leave them there to scream in terror.

Until they learn the routine you check on them every 5-10 minutes. If they are really freaking out then you sit in the room talking to them. You just don't pick them up if they are fed, warm and comforted. They have to learn to sleep on their own, do you still have your mom cuddle you to sleep?

It all has to do with how well you know your baby's crys though. Only start this when you can ditstinguish a scared cry from a "I want your attention cry.

Sorry, but you will have to at one point, it's just a fact of life. The timing is up to you though. It's your kid and your sleep, just know that both of you having a good night are crucial. Before I started this method my daughter got 6 hours a night, I got 4 if I was lucky. Now she gets 12 hours like clockwork, and I get at least 8. It also works for naps, so when I get my time with her, it is happy for both of us.

the thing is babies are BABIES not adults and need to be held more than just to be fed, warm and when in the world is a baby comforted while its CRYING and you arent picking it up?

babies need attention, they need affection even at night. even when you think its inconvienent.

i realise that people need sleep. i did. i was out of it for the first few months, but seth regulated on his own. within six months, he was sleeping 8 hours and thats plenty of slkeep for me. and then i got naps with him too. i got what i needed and i didnt lessen my comforting at all. i realise that you think your way is gonna make a better human, and i definitely believe that my way is gonna make a better human. im always willing to agree to disagree on this subject, but i want to make sure you understand that its a matter of OPINION, not fact. you go with your gut on this one. if you think that not picking up your child when its asking for attention at age four months is the best way to raise a human being by god, go for it. but its not the only way, nor is it the "best" way. there is no "best" way.

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the cave mouth shines
by pure force of will
i look down on the world
from the top of this lonesome hill
and you can run, and run some more
from here all the way to singapore
but i will carry you home in my teeth
-mountain goats

that simply isn't true - cio is not the only way. i've never used cio despite numerous people telling me i would have to if she was ever to sleep through the night. bedtimes are so happy with my girl, she is always so excited to go to bed in her big pink bed. she usually sleeps for about 10-11 hours straight.

i always wonder what kind of associations a child left to cry in her bed/cot develops. how on earth is a child supposed to learn how to go to sleep while they're crying anyway? i'm a terrible sleeper, takes me forever to get to sleep and i often wonder if it's because my mum let me cio...

i liked the sight, it gave me some good pointers but basically just told me to keep nurseing him to sleep, i just put him down for a nap and he really dident want to take it because his dad was home so he fought the nap for like 2 hours even tho he was really sleepy and cranky but he dident want to nurse because he knew that would put him to sleep

what she said!

I'm thinking Nick is 8 mos. old now?? Or younger - I can't keep track of all
these KR babies, sorry. Like Cathy said, every situation is different, and I
had a hard time with letting Timmy cry it out. I would get him from his crib
and take him into my room until he would go back to sleep. Weird how some
times I would wake up just in time to see he was ready to roll off my bed!

He would not hold still, like a little octopus-spinning around, little foot in
my ribcage and I had to grab him, over and over again, propping pillows
around him. Then that stage sort of passed on it's own.
Love and snuggle him as long as you can Pam. Before you know it, Nick's
going to be getting picky with his clothes and making you change the radio
station every 30 seconds...This will pass like a blink of an eye!

he might be getting ready to walk. watch out!

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the cave mouth shines
by pure force of will
i look down on the world
from the top of this lonesome hill
and you can run, and run some more
from here all the way to singapore
but i will carry you home in my teeth
-mountain goats

he is standing without suport for a few moments and often looks like he is about to take a step when like he is holding on to a chair of somthing but then changes his mind and sits down

yeah hes working on it. no wonder he doesnt want to nap. his mind is working overtime. i remember whenever seth was about to have a big breakthrough, he would get extra fussy, needy and not sleep until he collapsed.

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the cave mouth shines
by pure force of will
i look down on the world
from the top of this lonesome hill
and you can run, and run some more
from here all the way to singapore
but i will carry you home in my teeth
-mountain goats

I would definitly agree to disagree, there is no right way or wrong way. You just have to go with what works for you.