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08-17-2006, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bort I'll get you | LOL!!!!!!!
Did Paladin strike a nerve? | 
08-17-2006, 12:52 PM
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| | | From everything I've heard on the radio, I have to remain skeptical about this. The police and DA haven't been a competent bunch. They've been criticized for botching the case from the beginning. | 
08-17-2006, 12:55 PM
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| | | Something is fishy about this I'm not sure what's up, and the guy certainly looks creepy, but I don't feel sure they have the murderer. It just doesn't completely add up.
One, his ex-wife says that he was with his family in Georgia (or was it Alabama?) for the Christmas holidays that year. That's pretty inconvenient to Colorado. Secondly, how would he get into the basement of the Ramsey family home the morning after Christmas? That's just too weird.
While the guy has pedophile tendencies such as a penchant for child porn, it doesn't mean he murdered her or even came near her. It sounds like he was fascinated by the Ramsey case, researched it... and who knows, maybe he realized his pedopilia is abnormal and just wants to be locked up for life...... which would be fine with me but ... I don't know. A lot is missing from this story, a lot that doesn't add up.
.... and it's also weird how in one media report I read, it says that this guy was in contact with the Ramseys for the past few years, and yet.... all of a sudden, two months after Patsy's death... they find this guy and he completely confesses to the crime? I need more background before I believe they've nabbed the right guy. He just seems like a sicko either way.
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08-17-2006, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by VioletPrue Wow, a hell of a lot of people owe that father a big, fat appology.
Great that the guy has been caught, but too bad that the police kept saying the parents did it.
I'd sue the crap out of them. | Well maybe, maybe not. the guy could just be a sicko pedophile who wants to be locked away.
I think it's very bizarre how the murder happened in the Ramsey's basement completely without their knowledge, and without any sign for forced entry (if I recall the case correctly)... and then the stonewalling of cops by the Ramseys for a very long period of time. | 
08-17-2006, 01:00 PM
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| | | he says "I was with JonBenet the night she died." & "I drugged her and then had sex with her before accidentlly killing her." I think maybe there was more than this 1 person involved. Maybe he was there with her, and watched while someone else killed her. .... AND... how the hell did he get her in the basement in the first place?? He had to've gone upstairs in her bedroom very quietly and took her wthout waking anyone else up. They also have said something like there was a bowl of peaches or something in the kitchen. like jonbenet had gone downstairs and ate some peaches first... (??) | 
08-17-2006, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jmr When they ran this Karr guys dna in an unrelated crime his dna came up as a match for the Ramsey crime. That is how they nabbed him. | Really? I haven't seen that report. That would certainly help convince me. | 
08-17-2006, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Katgrrl | ????
His name is John Mark Karr
The pictures don't even seem close to similar. Plus, the Karr guy hasn't been convicted of a crime (yet), so he can't be a registered felon. | 
08-17-2006, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bodah Well maybe, maybe not. the guy could just be a sicko pedophile who wants to be locked away.
I think it's very bizarre how the murder happened in the Ramsey's basement completely without their knowledge, and without any sign for forced entry (if I recall the case correctly)... and then the stonewalling of cops by the Ramseys for a very long period of time. | but you're still going to act like the Ramsey's did it? The media claimed there was no signs of forced entry but left out the basement window that was broken.
I'm skeptical this is the right person for the time being. | 
08-17-2006, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bodah Really? I haven't seen that report. That would certainly help convince me. | They were reporting this information on one station last night. I don't think it is accurate however. There is alot of conflicting information coming out on the local stations in California since the guy was out here until I think 2001. (Sorry about that) | 
08-17-2006, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bodah ????
His name is John Mark Karr
The pictures don't even seem close to similar. Plus, the Karr guy hasn't been convicted of a crime (yet), so he can't be a registered felon. | that is a sex offender registry meaning past registrants or those who failed to register. I thought it was him because of the aliases prior to pics released but it does look nothing like John Karr and his fat ass wouldn't be able to fit through the basement window.
John Karr WOULD however be able to fit through the basement window...
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08-17-2006, 01:32 PM
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| | | Watching this Karr guy on TV he seems KOOKOO so who knows if he did it or is just looking for his fifteen mins. Chills ran up my spine when he said he loved Jon Benet and it was a mistake. | 
08-17-2006, 01:34 PM
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| | | "Accident" death.. he must've been high at the time or something. | 
08-17-2006, 02:28 PM
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| | Several years ago an alleged psychic named Dorothy Allison, now deceased, came up with this drawing of the man she believed responsible for the murder:
The Ramseys had enough faith in this woman to put the pic up on their official website. I doubt it 'paid off' exactly, but I must say, the drawing shows a remarkable likeness to the guy who has confessed.
Karr's brother has also told the press he's all but certain Karr was not in Boulder, Colorado at the time of JonBenet's murder, but would have to "check the family photo album" for Christmas 1996 to make sure. He told the reporter to, in effect, "stay tuned".
Doh.
You'd think that'd be one of the first things a relative would think to do. Cheque book journalism or a state of shock? Or both? | 
08-17-2006, 02:32 PM
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| | | Hello? Has anyone in the family checked their photo albums CHristmas 1996 | 
08-17-2006, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Fried~Butter Several years ago an alleged psychic named Dorothy Allison, now deceased, came up with this drawing of the man she believed responsible for the murder:
The Ramseys had enough faith in this woman to put the pic up on their official website. I doubt it 'paid off' exactly, but I must say, the drawing shows a remarkable likeness to the guy who has confessed.
Karr's brother has also told the press he's all but certain Karr was not in Boulder, Colorado at the time of JonBenet's murder, but would have to "check the family photo album" for Christmas 1996 to make sure. He told the reporter to, in effect, "stay tuned".
Doh.
You'd think that'd be one of the first things a relative would think to do. Cheque book journalism or a state of shock? Or both? | That does look alot like him! | 
08-17-2006, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jmr Watching this Karr guy on TV he seems KOOKOO so who knows if he did it or is just looking for his fifteen mins. Chills ran up my spine when he said he loved Jon Benet and it was a mistake. | Eeewww, the radio report I heard quoted him as saying he and Jon Benet were in love with each other.
On another board I'm on most of the people posting find something weird about this whole thing.
Well, this whole story is weird. Including those beauty pageants Jon Benet's parents had her compete in. | 
08-17-2006, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bodah Really? I haven't seen that report. That would certainly help convince me. | One 'item' of DNA specifically mentioned in the crimelibrary article on this case is the discovery of a single pubic hair found (I think) in the Ramsey's basement. It 'did not belong' to anybody in the Ramsey family. They checked [!]. They should be able to get DNA from that hair to compare to his own. If they match, it's obviously pretty compelling evidence against him. Dunno if it's happened yet though. | 
08-17-2006, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Katgrrl That does look alot like him! | Haha, I'm glad somebody agrees. I didn't know if I'd sound like a gullible idiot for admitting I was quite amazed by the resemblance. Maybe the 'psychic' just got lucky. Who knows? This is what it says about the drawing in the crimelibrary article:
John and Patsy Ramsey have have posted a composite sketch of a suspect compiled by the late psychic, Dorothy Allison, on their Internet site with the attached message: Have you seen this man? This man may have been in the Boulder area in December 1996. ... We firmly believe that this most horrible of killers will be caught based on information provided by people who care about right and wrong. ... Please help, so another innocent child will not be a victim and another family will not suffer unbearable grief."
Allison, who claimed to have assisted police investigations, came up with her vision of the suspect during an April 1998 appearance on a network television show. She died on December 3, 1999. Boulder Police Chief Mark Beckner declined to comment on the late psychic's work. http://www.crimelibrary.com/notoriou...ilogue_12.html | 
08-17-2006, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jmr Hello? Has anyone in the family checked their photo albums CHristmas 1996 | what do you mean? he was in there? they've said something like he didnt know jonbenet personally. ??? | 
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