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Old 08-16-2006, 10:43 PM
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Was quite a shock that they caught someone after all these years. But happy news, none the less. Go teh police!
I think that it was only a matter of time.

Many believed that JonBenet was killed by a repeat sex offender.

Look at Mia Zapata's killer. Her case was cold for a decade, until her killer was arrested in the Keys (string of islands southeast of the tip of Florida) and his DNA was entered into the national database. His DNA was a match to that found on Mia's body.

Eleven years later, he was sentenced to ten years longer than the sentencing guidelines (36 years) http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...zapata01m.html

According to John Ramsey's statement, his wife knew of this new evidence and that a possible arrest was imminent. I truly hope that she will rest in peace.

While DNA may exonerate many (http://www.innocenceproject.org/), I hope that it serves to solve cold cases.

I worked on the appellate response to a rape case in which one of the defendants in the case, despite his defense counsel advising him NOT to take the stand, testified that "all sperm/semen [his words: cum] looks the same" so that no jury could find him guilty.

If JonBenet's killer has been arrested, I feel for the Ramsey family.

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Old 08-16-2006, 10:55 PM
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why do people post out of emotion instead of fact? the way she was killed was not consistent with parental involvement. the method, where her body was found, the way her body was found, they weren't consistent with murder perputrated by parents/family and that was established years ago. do some research before you become kitchen table forensic scientists ffs.
Err, who is this directed at? I wasn't "posting out of emotion". I said I did not believe it was her parents, without explaining or going into much detail as to how or why I came to that conclusion, which wasn't really a conclusion but a belief, based to some small degree on what you're saying.

Having said that, what research are you talking about? (For the record, I've read one book on this case and at least one alleged "expert" said the method and the way she was found WAS consistent with the killer being a parent/family member. I took it with a heavy grain of salt, since at the time nobody, "expert" or otherwise, appeared to have a clue who the killer was and the entire book was pretty much idle conjecture.)

As I said, for multiple reasons I've never believed it had anything to do with her parents, but I can't for the life of me see how "the method, where her body was found, the way her body was found" is inconsistent with murder perpetuated by parents/family. It certainly never sounded entirely inconsistent. Not on the face of things, at least.
Remember, the case was initially treated as a kidnapping. It's extremely unusual for a kidnap victim (dead or alive) to be discovered in her own home. Even though her father found her body, which is obviously not indicative of a man with something to hide (a murdered daughter), you can't really blame the police for their initial suspicion. It was and still is a bizarre case. It sounds to me like the cops got tunnel vision over it, with disastrous results. (If the guy is guilty, how many other children have been sexually abused by him in the past 10 years?)

I would presume that if the killer wasn't a family member or close associate (invited to stay the night, perhaps, with an excuse for being there), they'd have been far more likely to abduct, rape and kill a child some-where, any-where, other than in her own home, with her parents and brother present and sleeping upstairs. He could have been interrupted and caught at any time.
Yet this killer not only did what he did to the poor child, he allegedly hung around the house long enough to find a note~book belonging to Patsy Ramsey, whereupon he wrote that long, bizarre ransom note ~ surely pretty unusual (not to mention audacious) behaviour when the perpetrator is a random intruder.

Moreover the vast majority of (known) child abuse ~ ranging from sexual abuse to murder ~ is perpetuated by a parent, family member or close family associate. You very seldom hear of a child rapist/murderer who uses an MO like this. I suspect that this killer's MO is a statistical anomaly, not the "norm".
Truth, as always, is stranger than fiction.

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Old 08-16-2006, 11:21 PM
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I'm happy about this news because I believed her parents did it due to the media way back in the day but then new information came up which I probed further and found that the parents were unjustly persecuted.

Can anyone imagine being labelled murderers of their own daughter and how that would affect your mental and physical being??

The media, the police owes them a big apology.
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Old 08-16-2006, 11:29 PM
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so what i'm wondering is, how did this guy know JonBenet? was he one of the 'workers' in her home, a teacher of hers, or was it a random crime?
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so what i'm wondering is, how did this guy know JonBenet? was he one of the 'workers' in her home, a teacher of hers, or was it a random crime?
I'd like to know that as well! I'm sure he probably stalked her at dance classes or something
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