do you think it's a coincidence that patty ramsey died and then they found the killer?
no, she was helping from beyond the grave. i kid you not

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so the Karr guy just confessed.

but i was watching some analyst say that any idiot would know to confess to ANY crime in the US rather than stay in a thai prision, and that there's a good chance he might be lying just to get extradited.

and this Karr fellow, used to live in Petaluma, which is just north of San Francisco, and tonight on the news they interviewed his ex-wife (who bore three of his kids) and she says it's impossible he murdered jonbenet, becuase at the time of the murder they were living in Alabama as a family, and he was in their home during that time, and did not make any trips. but that he was preoccupied with the jonbenet case and would read and research about it alot, as well as the Polly Klass case. And the exwife did a phone interview on the later news-cast, saying she wants nothing to do with her exhusband and does not want to defend him, but that he was not possibly in Boulder during the time the murder happened.

And on nightline, Barbara Walters interviewed Mr.Ramsey and he said he had no information from police that there was a DNA match between Karr and the DNA sample pulled from JonBenet's body.

link to ABC 7 News San Francisco story on the Ex-wife and her statments
John Karr confession article

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I am just in shock over this whole arrest/confession, I thought this case would never be solved, it's especially tragic even more so that the mother never got to see this day and have her name cleared

The person’s real name is apparently Charles Lawrence Carr. He’s in the Colorado Sex Offenders Registry.

The colorado sex offender link with his picture

http://sor.state.co.us/off2/felon_de...&id =56986418

Does anyone else find a pattern of thick glasses when it comes to child molestors, rapists and stalkers?

I find it amazing that it took them 10 years to find a DNA match.
I'm not saying that the reality is like in CSI, but 10 fucking years to find a convicted and registered sex offender (from the same state) who commited a murder that the parents openly and publically got blamed for is a disgrace.

I agree! Do you think the police were so strong in their "belief" and the media went so far with the witch hunt that instead of reviewing the facts from the start that they went on a defensive stance with their belief to cover their asses?

That is how it comes across to me. I just fucking hate watching the news now and how cold reporters come across! One time there was a news story about someone who shot alot of members at a church and then a reporter went up to interview a girl (who just witnessed her friend getting shot in the head) asking a bunch of questions like "Describe what happened, what did it look like etc.. All while the girl couldn't stop shaking and crying but the reporter just stood their with big bright eyes asking these questions like an uncaring robot oblivious that maybe the girl is in shock and shouldn't be asked those questions.

It's all about views and entertainment and reporters as well as the stations have apparently no care or limits. Freedom of press apparently gives them the right to distort the truth, give misinformation, destroy families lives by making families out to be murderers, ask horrible intrusive questions towards those that just witnessed someone's head being blown off right before their eyes.

I'm not sure what to make of all that, but I was just thinking how INCREDIBLY lucky and fortunate this guy is, that he'll be extradited to an American prison. Not including Guantanamo Bay (and not that prison in America would be all that hot either), prison's in Thailand are arguably the most dreaded, feared prison's on earth. Certainly, they are reputed to be the worst in all of Asia. Descriptions of the prisons there sound like something out of Dante's inferno. Even if he faces the death penalty in America, I suspect he'll be glad to be extradited. That's if he is extradited.
I hope it isn't true, what his ex~wife is saying. I hate the word "closure" and I don't believe in it, but it would be yet another cruel blow for the Ramseys if it turns out he's just talking shite.

If it turns out that he is the right guy and everything, is pretty much the entire world going to get sued for being mean?

Wow.

did you guys see that law and order that was based on this case?

theyve been investigating carr for a while, i think, right?

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it's not charles lawrence carr, it's john mark karr


different guy

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I'm pretty sure the rules surrounding DNA evidence have changed more than once in the past ten years. Not sure in what ways though. Is it possible that they've been able to catch the guy either through a new scientific development or through being able to gather more information in different ways that weren't open to them before?

Im so glad that they are finally making positve progress in this case. Such an awful thing to happen, to any child and parents. I wish the mother was able to live to see all of it though. Ten years is such a long time to not know and be accused of something you didn't do..

was JonBenet raped? Theyre talking about the suspect had some arrests in a child porno case or something.. Is he a pedifir? (spelling)

This is the alleged guy
http://www.kfmb.com/stories/story.60243.html

ok they just said: "He drugged her, then had sex with her before he 'ACCIDENTALLY' killed her."

Yes, yes; this is true. The science of DNA (actually, science full stop) is not my special subject, but DNA testing ten years ago wasn't nearly as infallible and all~conclusive as most people believe. Having long regarded "DNA evidence" as conclusive and be~all~end~all, I was amazed to find out how faulty and unreliable DNA "proof" could be in the early to mid~1990s. The way the testing was done circa 1994, DNA tests might "prove" for example that you and I and possibly a few people posting on this message board are related to one another.
Which is (well, at least to me) a cute idea but not very likely.

The methods used to conduct both mitochondrial DNA and nuclear DNA testing are supposedly far superior nowadays. Something called a "6-point Short Tandem Repeat (STR) analysis" has risen over the years to 20-point STR analysis and so on.

On anuzza note, in reading the link to the interview with this man's ex~wife, I found it bewildering that when this "registered sex offender" with a liking for kiddie porn got out of prison in 2001, a condition of his probation was that he stay away from computers, but he was allowed access to his children.

I guess the "mean" of the world are already in self-designed prison.

....makes you wonder how many other children he drugged and raped. Being a second grade teacher and all....I'm so glad he will be raped and murdered in prison soon.