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08-14-2006, 07:42 PM
|  | I'm kind of a big deal | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Rocky Mountains
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| | | Fuck you ADA.....having a past drug and/or alcohol addiction is NOT a disability So, I had to take this test at my job, about sexual harrassment and employment policy regarding people with disabilities.....
Well……I learned that the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 is full of shit. It lists “having a past record of impairment” as one type of disability, and it lists “a prior drug or alcohol addiction” as a disability.
Well…… that’s complete and utter bullshit. Thanks liberal legislators, for this golden pearl of wisdom. The term disabled means “not able” to perform some type of function. What are past drug and or/alcohol addicts not able to do, that the rest of the populus can do?
NOTHING.
This is truly fucking asinine.....And of course, my employer gives prospective employees a drug test before they are hired. So then, if I piss in a cup and it turns out I test positive for some drug, I won’t be hired. But if I test positive for some drug, and it turns out I am a “recovering addict”, then all of a sudden I am disabled, and I cannot be turned down for employment based on this factor. That’s completely non-sensical. | 
08-14-2006, 07:46 PM
|  | pull me out of the lake | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: soho
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Originally Posted by luftwaffe What are past drug and or/alcohol addicts not able to do, that the rest of the populus can do? | have a glass of wine with their dinner?
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08-14-2006, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by discolexy have a glass of wine with their dinner? | yes they are able to do so.
one merely purchases wine, pours it in a glass, and then consumes it. Anyone who has a functional mouth and hands can do that. | 
08-14-2006, 08:09 PM
|  | PARTYROCK | | Join Date: Apr 2006
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| | | I, personally, have found this to be the case:
Cancer is a disease that you cannot stop from killing you by yourself.
Alcohol addiction is something you do to yourself.
So we're talking about physical disease vs. mental disease.
Mental diseases that require an item to complete are VERY VERY VERY VERY easily handled. The cure is very very very easy to diagnosis.
"Do not get the object that is instigating the disease"
In such simple cases, where the cure is simply to "not drink", like alchoholism, Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990... well, it's full of shit.
I really can't begin to type how much I disagree with this horrid legality.......... | 
08-14-2006, 08:14 PM
|  | I'm kind of a big deal | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Rocky Mountains
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Originally Posted by O_- I, personally, have found this to be the case:
Cancer is a disease that you cannot stop from killing you by yourself.
Alcohol addiction is something you do to yourself.
So we're talking about physical disease vs. mental disease.
Mental diseases that require an item to complete are VERY VERY VERY VERY easily handled. The cure is very very very easy to diagnosis.
"Do not get the object that is instigating the disease"
In such simple cases, where the cure is simply to "not drink", like alchoholism, Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990... well, it's full of shit.
I really can't begin to type how much I disagree with this horrid legality.......... |
yeah, whoever decided that this portion of the ADA was a good idea, is beyond reproach.
See, if you can yourself just merely stop the behavior that the ADA claims is "disabling" then it is not a disability..... if I don't have an arm, i can't regrow one.....if i'm an idiot because i'm drunk, i can merely stop ingesting alcohal.....
fucking idiots. | 
08-14-2006, 11:05 PM
|  | Occam's chainsaw | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: goin down in a blaze of glory
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Originally Posted by luftwaffe What are past drug and or/alcohol addicts not able to do, that the rest of the populus can do? | Run a country?
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08-14-2006, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by herekitty Run a country? | Well... | 
08-14-2006, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by slutlipstick Well... | well what?
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08-14-2006, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by herekitty well what? |
but i'll play both sides and bring up Bush's college days so everyone is happy. | 
08-15-2006, 12:16 AM
|  | Occam's chainsaw | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: goin down in a blaze of glory
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| | | ^^ he's not in charge of the country. And btw, Mass. has pretty outstanding rates for everything- good schools, low divorce rates, etc. Anyway, I was mostly joking. I don't think Bush's complete and utter failure as a leader has anything to do with the fact that he was an alcoholic in the past.
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08-15-2006, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by herekitty ^^ he's not in charge of the country. And btw, Mass. has pretty outstanding rates for everything- good schools, low divorce rates, etc. Anyway, I was mostly joking. I don't think Bush's complete and utter failure as a leader has anything to do with the fact that he was an alcoholic in the past. | Yeah, but I kinda figure Senators are important in running the country.
Bush's isn't an utter failure! It's a disability. | 
08-15-2006, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by slutlipstick Bush's isn't an utter failure! | Really?
Please point out anything that he has touched that hasn't turned to shit because I can't think of a single one.
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08-15-2006, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by herekitty Really?
Please point out anything that he has touched that hasn't turned to shit because I can't think of a single one. | It was a joke. Did you see what I said after that? | 
08-15-2006, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by luftwaffe So, I had to take this test at my job, about sexual harrassment and employment policy regarding people with disabilities.....
Well……I learned that the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 is full of shit. It lists “having a past record of impairment” as one type of disability, and it lists “a prior drug or alcohol addiction” as a disability.
Well…… that’s complete and utter bullshit. Thanks liberal legislators, for this golden pearl of wisdom. The term disabled means “not able” to perform some type of function. What are past drug and or/alcohol addicts not able to do, that the rest of the populus can do?
NOTHING.
This is truly fucking asinine.....And of course, my employer gives prospective employees a drug test before they are hired. So then, if I piss in a cup and it turns out I test positive for some drug, I won’t be hired. But if I test positive for some drug, and it turns out I am a “recovering addict”, then all of a sudden I am disabled, and I cannot be turned down for employment based on this factor. That’s completely non-sensical. | What about fat people? Is a fat person ‘disabled’ because it’s unlikely they’d be able to be a mountain climbing teacher for a job?
Here in the UK we have free healthcare paid for out of our taxes. Just out of curiosity do you think this free healthcare should be awarded to people with lung cancer (probably) caused by smoking? And what about people with liver failure from too much drinking? Do you think they are entitled to free healthcare too? | 
08-15-2006, 08:27 AM
| | oh, truly disappointed. | | Join Date: Aug 2006
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Originally Posted by Hoppingdeth What about fat people? Is a fat person ‘disabled’ because it’s unlikely they’d be able to be a mountain climbing teacher for a job?
Here in the UK we have free healthcare paid for out of our taxes. Just out of curiosity do you think this free healthcare should be awarded to people with lung cancer (probably) caused by smoking? And what about people with liver failure from too much drinking? Do you think they are entitled to free healthcare too? | as long as any healthcare denied to smokers is also denied to sportspeople. | 
08-15-2006, 09:18 AM
|  | in a strange way, hch > u | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: THAWNG ISLAND
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| | | you 2 are faggots
can i get disability now?
for my past drug ADDICTION haha
what about a up and coming alcoholism? | 
08-15-2006, 09:26 AM
|  | Society is a Whore | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Zen Arcade
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Originally Posted by fagarielina you 2 are faggots
can i get disability now?
for my past drug ADDICTION haha
what about a up and coming alcoholism? | yeah so there  | 
08-15-2006, 09:29 AM
|  | #1 cunt-kicker-in | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Northampton, UK:
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Originally Posted by luftwaffe So, I had to take this test at my job, about sexual harrassment and employment policy regarding people with disabilities.....
Well……I learned that the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 is full of shit. It lists “having a past record of impairment” as one type of disability, and it lists “a prior drug or alcohol addiction” as a disability.
Well…… that’s complete and utter bullshit. Thanks liberal legislators, for this golden pearl of wisdom. The term disabled means “not able” to perform some type of function. What are past drug and or/alcohol addicts not able to do, that the rest of the populus can do?
NOTHING.
This is truly fucking asinine.....And of course, my employer gives prospective employees a drug test before they are hired. So then, if I piss in a cup and it turns out I test positive for some drug, I won’t be hired. But if I test positive for some drug, and it turns out I am a “recovering addict”, then all of a sudden I am disabled, and I cannot be turned down for employment based on this factor. That’s completely non-sensical. | Um... do you have a past addiction? If not, get one. Then, problem solved, you can be ripped off your tits day in and out with impunity.
Personally, I think employers giving their prospective employees piss-tests is pretty fucking assinine as well.
I'm pretty sure liberalism is regarded as a disability in America as well. | 
08-15-2006, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Ophiel Ophiuci I'm pretty sure liberalism is regarded as a disability in America as well. |  | 
08-15-2006, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by the old town as long as any healthcare denied to smokers is also denied to sportspeople. | Damn right. Or you could make it easy and simply not treat anyone differently.
Consider this.
I smoke – I drink – I also pay my taxes and particularly smoking contributes considerably more wealth to our health service than it costs to repair people who smoke (£9bn v’s £2bn) so I would expect to not be treated any differently.
In fact I would expect to be treated absolutely like anyone else if smoking made me disabled.
Now in America – you smoke – you pay tax on your cigs like we do. You also pay income tax (high ones too in some states) and not only that you have to pay for your own heath care outside of your considerable tax contributions too – and they still don’t want to repair you – and now they don’t even want you disabled.
Fault or no fault – the success of any 'sucessful' society could be judged in allowing any individual living in it’s society to at least be disabled. No one is more disabled than someone else and no one is more deserving of disability than someone else.
You’re talking shite Luftwaffe and I’m not entirely sure I blame you – given the society America now lives in.  | |