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04-20-2006, 04:48 PM
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| | | Diet Coke is my blood. | 
04-21-2006, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by theoreticalchemist  Your (mis)understanding of economics is pitiful.  | Care to expand? Or is this a continuation of the idea that human rights abuses can be ignored since Coke employ people? | 
04-21-2006, 08:46 AM
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04-21-2006, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by amphibian Care to expand? Or is this a continuation of the idea that human rights abuses can be ignored since Coke employ people? | Whose idea was it that human rights violations can be ignored since Coke employ people?
Not drinking Coke is not going to solve the problem of the violation of the human rights of workers employed by Coke, nor would it be good for the millions of other people employed by Coke in the Third World and elsewhere.
You were right, however, in saying that 'If everyone did boycott Coke it would have an effect'. If everyone did boycott Coke, it is obvious that it would have an effect. A universal boycott on Coke would have a negative effect on the lives of millions of the people employed by Coke in the Third World and elsewhere, including the United States of America.
'Not doing' should be quite easy, but doing can be very much more difficult. The problem is not the company Coke or the product 'Coke', the problem is that the human rights of workers are being violated.
I hate the violations of the human rights of workers employed by Coke committed by other employees of the Coca-Cola Company in the Third World and elsewhere, but why should I hate the Coca-Cola Company? | 
04-21-2006, 09:01 AM
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| | | I think what he's trying to say is - it's good that you're fighting for the cause, but you're doing it in the wrong way. | 
04-21-2006, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by tooleh I think what he's trying to say is - it's good that you're fighting for the cause, but you're doing it in the wrong way. | Yes, that is what I have said. I want you to fight for the cause of the human rights of workers violated by employees of Coke, but a universal boycott of the Coca-Cola Company would not solve this problem. | 
04-21-2006, 05:19 PM
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| | | Aah so you don't care to expand. I expected you to come out with significant understanding of economics. Like there's a correlation between buying coke and human rights, or something.
tooleh, you were proudly boasting of your lack of care about the cause. so you're .... well. | 
04-21-2006, 05:35 PM
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| | | I do sorta care, but I admit - I'm too lazy to do something, but if I did do something, it wouldn't be half-assed and useless like a boycott.
Oh, and chemist is blatently able to quote entire pages of keynes, hayek and friedman from memory.
Yah. >_>
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05-02-2006, 11:06 PM
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05-02-2006, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by historygravity | i can't get that link to work HG. could you please paste it here? [/me being a pain in the ass].
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05-02-2006, 11:14 PM
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| | | Mike Catherall
May 2, 2006
Jack White of the White Stripes agreed to write a song for Coke.
Courtesy of YouTube, you can see the ad
Jack White Coca Cola ad
There's a lot of controversy surrounding this ad in the music world, and it raises several big questions along the lines of advertising vs. artistic integrity.
Did Jack White sell out? What happened to the integrity of the White Stripes? In other words, has he begun to make music for paying clients as opposed to for his own amusement and sense of expression? Has his artistic integrity been compromised?
It has raised plenty of eyebrows in the music world, but the issue would probably be even more pressing If the White Stripes weren't such a mainstream band to begin with (at least since they have been adopted by the Wal-Mart Rock section). The reality is, they are pop, the mainstream like a lot of their music, and ideally, it is music that he would be producing on his own anyway.
Are The White Stripes changing, or sacrificing their own artistic vision and stance? Or did they ever have much of a stance to begin with? Yes, it is a commercial venture and yes, he made gobs of money in the process.
The music Jack White makes for himself happens to resonate with a certain group of people, and they buy it. He already has the formula down and the familiarity and the brand.
So is there any harm done?
Before you think that Coca Cola is just a harmless company selling fizzy drinks to bright-eyed teens, it might be worth looking a bit deeper into the globalization practices of the company.
Here is an interesting website worth checking out Killer Coke
It is a protest site to bring awareness of the kidnapping, murder and torture of union leaders and organizers in Columbian Coke plants.
Now, if Jack White had once been the front man for Rage Against the Machine, then I could see some hypocrisy.
But let me know what you think, this ad touches on a lot of issues across sustainability, ethics and advertising.
Here's another great one along the same lines: The Rolling Stones doing a song for Rice Krispies in the 60's. | 
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