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http://edition.cnn.com/2006/US/07/27....ap/index.html

Army dismisses gay Arabic linguist
He was 'outed' by anonymous e-mails

Thursday, July 27, 2006 Posted: 1200 GMT (2000 HKT)

JOHNSON CITY, Tennessee (AP) -- A decorated sergeant and Arabic language specialist was dismissed from the U.S. Army under the "don't ask, don't tell" policy, though he says he never told his superiors he was gay and his accuser was never identified.

Bleu Copas, 30, told The Associated Press he is gay, but said he was "outed" by a stream of anonymous e-mails to his superiors in the 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg, North Carolina.

"I knew the policy going in," Copas said in an interview on the campus of East Tennessee State University, where he is pursuing a master's degree in counseling and working as a student adviser. "I knew it was going to be difficult."

An eight-month Army investigation culminated in Copas' honorable discharge on January 30 -- less than four years after he enlisted, he said, out of a post-September 11 sense of duty to his country.

Copas now carries the discharge papers, which mention his awards and citations, so he can document his military service for prospective employers. But the papers also give the reason for his dismissal.

He plans to appeal to the Army Board for Correction of Military Records.

The "don't ask, don't tell" policy, established in 1993, prohibits the military from inquiring about the sex lives of service members, but requires discharges of those who openly acknowledge being gay.

The policy is becoming "a very effective weapon of vengeance in the armed forces" said Steve Ralls, a spokesman for the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, a Washington-based watchdog organization that counseled Copas and is working to repeal "don't ask, don't tell."

Copas said he was never open about his sexuality in the military and suspects his accuser was someone he mistakenly befriended and apparently slighted.
Thousands dismissed under policy

More than 11,000 service members have been dismissed under the policy, including 726 last year -- an 11 percent jump from 2004 and the first increase since 2001.

That's less than a half-percent of the more than 2 million soldiers, sailors and Marines dismissed for all reasons since 1993, according to the General Accountability Office.

But the GAO also noted that nearly 800 dismissed gay or lesbian service members had critical abilities, including 300 with important language skills. Fifty-five were proficient in Arabic, including Copas, a graduate of the Defense Language Institute in California.

Discharging and replacing them has cost the Pentagon nearly $369 million, according to the Center for the Study of Sexual Minorities in the Military at the University of California, Santa Barbara.




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Just think of the bright side. If the draft hits then just say you're gay and you won't be drafted!
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Just think of the bright side. If the draft hits then just say you're gay and you won't be drafted!
Yes, I have actually thought of that. But I'm sure this will piss lots of people off but this guy wasn't your average ordinary soldier. He's got skills sorely needed. Who are these petty morons who put their personal grudges and/or their homophobia before our safety?
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Yes, I have actually thought of that. But I'm sure this will piss lots of people off but this guy wasn't your average ordinary soldier. He's got skills sorely needed. Who are these petty morons who put their personal grudges and/or their homophobia before our safety?
You're right. I still don't get the justifications behind the whole if you're gay then you can't serve.
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"We need help from every single linguist we can get! Except for the gays..... okay, we're fucked, but at least we WON'T be fucked! HUZZAH!"

Welcome to almost 100 years after the black rights and freedoms movement.
I agree with you completely, but I must say I don't really consider the black rights movement to have really kicked off until more like 50-60 years ago. Just because slavery was no longer legal doesn't mean they were living the life, ya know? That's one of the reasons I get irritated when people act like this country is soooo progressive. For god's sake women have had the right to vote for less than 90 years. That's only slightly out of the range of my grandmother's life. And although segregation started early enough, it was still going on here in Georgia until just over 30 years ago.

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I still don't get the justifications behind the whole if you're gay then you can't serve.
No other rational person does either. We'd have to get someone like Ztedster in here to explain the "reasons" behind that.
And when something like language skills are involved, their "reasons" make even less sense. They usually cite some ridiculous fear that all the guys in the military will do nothing but have sex with each others if openly gay males are allowed in. I guess maybe with translators, the fear is they'll promote the "homosexual agenda" in another language or some such nonsense?
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More than 11,000 service members have been dismissed under the policy, including 726 last year
Holy shit! Aren't we trying to fight a war? You'd think they'd take all the service members they could get.... they are actually turning people away who want to do Bush's bidding?
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