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Old 08-03-2006, 02:52 AM
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I'm not saying that every single serving job is a cakewalk. I just don't think that most servers are any worse off than say...the nice older guy who now works as a stocker for my boss. Even the unlucky ones.

Some jobs are just shit jobs. It's not fair, but it's a fact.
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You know, through a strange series of events, I actually watched Oprah the other day. (I think it was last Friday?) It was such a good show. She devoted the whole hour to the minimum wage issues. She started off by having the super-size me guy (Morgan Spurlock) and his girlfriend showing a little bit of their 30 days living off minimum wage. She also had a lady who worked full time but was homeless (and she had a daughter!) and a couple of other examples. She stressed that these situations are all too common now. I'm really glad she did that because my guess is that there's a lot of people out there who watch her show but hadn't given this any thought and now maybe they will. (and possibly write their representatives).

Here is all of the info about the show if anyone is interested:
http://www2.oprah.com/tows/pastshows...20060414.jhtml

Of course, they did just pass a bill to up the min. wage over 3 years, but I got the impression that they did it just to tack on the parts that will get rid of the estate tax, since they had just turned down another bill proposing a min. wage increase within the last couple of months.

And I'm sure I'm thread whoring here, but I just put up a thread about a related issue (other end of the money spectrum) yesterday:

http://www.kittyradio.com/soapbox/showthread.php?t=8717
That's an old episode, but I've seen that one too. As a matter of fact I show the 30 Days episode that Morgan had done when it aired. It was absolutely devastating and I'm glad she helped raise the awareness level some. Not that we didn't already know how horrible it was here.
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Democrats cry foul on minimum wage 'trick'

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Failed bill for hourly wage hike was tied to estate tax cut

Saturday, August 5, 2006; Posted: 11:07 a.m. EDT (15:07 GMT)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A failed Republican attempt to tie an estate-tax cut to the first federal minimum wage increase in nearly a decade was "political blackmail" and the result of "cynical politics," Sen. Ken Salazar, D-Colorado, said Saturday.

"Working Americans deserve a raise, but congressional Republicans keep giving them political tricks," Salazar said in the Democrats' weekly radio address. "We need a new direction for America, and a new Congress that works for our common good."

The Senate on Thursday rejected, 56-42, legislation that would have cut estate taxes and raised the hourly minimum wage to $7.25 from $5.15 over three years. Senators needed 60 votes to advance the bill, which passed the House last week.

Democrats, who generally supported increasing the minimum wage but opposed the cost of the bill's estate tax package, criticized Republicans for using the minimum wage to push a tax break for the wealthy.
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oh thank god

hopefully they will find a way to increase minimum wage without any strings attatched.
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Issues peripheral to principle...

The fact that someone might very well make a decent living on $2.13 an hour, plus tips, is not the core issue here. The service industry shouldn't be allowed to subvert the minimum wage by relying on the success of what is not a fully established honor system. There are plenty of people out there who think that tipping is ridiculous, and if servers don't like their hourly wage, then they should get another job. Of course, these people are cretins, but that's the grim reality. I don't care how much the tips amount to in a week, $2.13 an hour is unforgivable.

Furthermore, service laborers should create unions, especially in the south, where they are likely to be taken advantage of and exploited by business owners.
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