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07-28-2006, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by vegyrex Do you think what blacks experienced here is somehow over blown? | I think what blacks experience NOW is underblown. Lip service to the past matters little to me compared to prison reform now. Quote: |
Yes they should be ruined. When they engage in dishonesty and flat out racism to change history to fit their bigoted views.
| Vegyrex, that response does nothing but ignore my entire point that people who lie about history aren't ruined for their dishonesty or suspected bigotry. You didn't even respond to anything I was saying. You just said, "yeah, but anti-semitism is bad. REALLY bad." There is no solid argument whatsoever that liars about other genocides should be disputed instead of ruined, but those who criticize Israel should be ruined. The only argument on its behalf is "yeah but the Holocaust was like, the worst! Of all tragedies! Ever!"
It wasn't. We love remembering the oppression of Jews here because we saved them, and we love remembering the oppression of blacks because we freed them. It's dull and predictable, and obviously affects foreign policy because the result is that people will not protest the foreign aid we never should have given them. The other result is that if anyone lies about a genocide in any other country, there is no social penalty whatsoever. It's nothing but a cultural delusion.
This is a NORMAL. THING. Every culture sanctions its own forms of insanity. Again, I would point you to the mayor of Tokyo, who has said the Nanjing massacre never happened, and still believes the bloodline of the emperor is the bloodline of the gods.
Everyone should be suspected of bias. Including favorable bias when there is no outcry of condemnation for human rights abuses.  |
07-28-2006, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by fagarielina THE HOLOCAUST AND THE ADL AND THE IDEA OF ANTI SEMITISM"
WAS ORCHESTRATED AND CREATED BY DUDNNDUADNDADNNAA
SOME WHO HAPPEN TO BE JEWS THEMSELVES
omgzzz
to keep themselves from criticism?
nooo
never
chomsky stays face value while its "factual and all it isnt enough
and hes into the whole america as a soverign meanie
while its merely the homebase of ops at the time being
and
THE DUMBED DOWN WEST IS BEING SET UP FOR GENOCIDE |
You don't get near enough credit around here. |
07-28-2006, 10:38 PM
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| | (learned rationaliztion oops i mean LOGIC IS IGNORANCE!!!
HAHA 
thank you for caring
i dont know tho
im just buttstorming most of the time |
07-28-2006, 10:51 PM
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| | | bneing accused of jewhating/antisemitism is worse than being accused of hating "blacks"
i onder why |
07-28-2006, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by fagarielina bneing accused of jewhating/antisemitism is worse than being accused of hating "blacks"
i onder why | yyy |
07-29-2006, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by fagarielina bneing accused of jewhating/antisemitism is worse than being accused of hating "blacks"
i onder why | Come on now faga. You know both are considered bad.  |
07-29-2006, 12:10 PM
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| | | yeah
but really its alot more "un pc"(which is a whole other story im neither for nor against cos its a retarded ass divisionary diversion and everyone on all "sides of it need to STFU befo i kick em in da face fo bein so stupid
but it really seems more un-pc haha tobe an antisemite" rather than nigger hatin good old boy
STUPID KIKES!
HAHAHAHA |
07-29-2006, 12:57 PM
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| | | I really think Israel fits perfectly into the extremely popular American concept of a "just war". We don't really believe in being held to progressive ideals, so we're really into this as basically justified aggression. The pro-Israeli cheeseball factor is just gravy. The day when we believe it's an actual responsibility that we do proactive, positive things instead of go to war is when these wars will be less easy to get us to ignore.
Pragmatism is unpopular in a country of illiterates. |
07-29-2006, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bunny gamer I really think Israel fits perfectly into the extremely popular American concept of a "just war". We don't really believe in being held to progressive ideals | Nothing progressive about Israel bashing especially considering who you folks support on the other side. That's what makes people like Chomsky look like a crack pot. Or in his case, Pol Pot.  |
07-29-2006, 01:12 PM
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| | | That's how diplomats should talk instead of in specifics. "Hey you're just israel-bashing." That would be really intelligent. |
07-29-2006, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bunny gamer That's how diplomats should talk instead of in specifics. "Hey you're just israel-bashing." That would be really intelligent. | Well basically Israel bashing is done mostly because its cool to do so among the extreme left. Yes, you harp about human rights but considering the human rights record of the people most interested in seeing Israel go away, it seems rather bizarre and makes the leftist cry for human rights ring hollow. |
07-29-2006, 01:58 PM
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| |  chomsky
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Originally Posted by bunny gamer So why does nobody intelligent ever criticize him? Is it because he's perfect?
I know he's supposed to be an anti-semite and all the bullshit like that, but why can I only find websites criticizing him that are written by juvenile grad student Republican philosophy majors? Oh yeah and Alan Dershowitz. Who probably never had anything useful to say about politics until his favorite country was getting criticized. Total snore, but I'm reading him anyway. Is there anyone else?
If you hate Chomsky please supply websites that counter-argue (or your own counter-arguments). In the meantime I suppose I'll order the anti-Chomsky reader. |
i'm anti Chomsky myself. |
07-31-2006, 02:52 PM
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| | I've found this video to shed some light on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. http://opposingdigits.com/vlog/?p=128 |
07-31-2006, 06:16 PM
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| | | it's an extremely moving and well-researched documentary. i wish people who believe anti-semitism is prevalent would watch this. thanks, google. |
08-02-2006, 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by bunny gamer I think it's bizarre that just because he's the only celebrity intellectual radical in the entire country, the weight of being right 100% of the time is on him. To me, that's silly. | I dont think it's silly at all. When you throw as much vitriol around as he does you have to expect backlash. |
08-02-2006, 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by fagarielina yeah
but really its alot more "un pc"(which is a whole other story im neither for nor against cos its a retarded ass divisionary diversion and everyone on all "sides of it need to STFU befo i kick em in da face fo bein so stupid
but it really seems more un-pc haha tobe an antisemite" rather than nigger hatin good old boy
STUPID KIKES!
HAHAHAHA | I believe Mel Gibson has the answer to this. |
08-02-2006, 01:46 PM
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| | | aqllhe suppopsedly did was call tghe arretsing officers fucking jews
hahaha
thats so hilarious |
08-02-2006, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by fagarielina aqllhe suppopsedly did was call tghe arretsing officers fucking jews
hahaha
thats so hilarious | The cop was Jewish |
08-02-2006, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by fagarielina aqllhe suppopsedly did was call tghe arretsing officers fucking jews
hahaha
thats so hilarious | apparently he also said something about jews starting all of the wars. I guess once he sobered up and talked with his publicist, he realized how much damage he did because now he's requesting to meet with Jewish leaders. |
08-02-2006, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by herekitty apparently he also said something about jews starting all of the wars. I guess once he sobered up and talked with his publicist, he realized how much damage he did because now he's requesting to meet with Jewish leaders. | I heard he was checking into Chabad rehab.Which it seems would be a total P.R.thing.
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