"There are three types of intelligent men: those who learn by reading; those who learn by watching; and those who learn by peeing on the electric fence."

Will Rogers or Mark Twain


Who would be more intelligent: a person who has a theory about baseball; one who has memorized all the personal statistics of the current national league players; or a player who earns $5 million per year after practicing hitting the ball for the 12 years of elementary and secondary school, while achieving a "c" average?


Intelligence: what is it, really?

Mike Mussina wins. He makes like $19mill a year as the Yanks ace, and he went to Stanford for Economics.

Moose pwns everyone.

"The most powerful gift that God granted men is not in the snap of the fingers, but in the snap of the bat"
~~carefulcarpenter

Go out to a game this summer.

Oh nice. I'm using this!

You like baseball? I wouldn't think there were many baseball fans on KR.

Hockey or soccer (Futbol) seem to get more attention.

With the way my team is playing right now I'm trying to forget about baseball.

They're not playing like defending world champions.

I'm a baseball fan.......

does anyone think Alex Rodriguez is intelligent?

he's the highest paid player in the league, at around $25 mil per year....

"Money is often mistaken for genius"
~~carefulcarpenter

Learned, Earned, or Found?

We live in a technocracy. Are you really suprised that baseball players make so much more than people who think for a living?

You've obviously never played real ball before.

He definitely values intelligence. His wife, of whom he first started dating in highschool is a psychology teacher, and he is very serious about going to college. If I'm not mistaken he already is in the offseason.

He's a very intelligent person and he really takes education seriously.

An idiot would be a person whom turns down a $25 mill contract. Not one that takes it, and then earns it.

The Sox still pwn. The Tigers are tough right now, but I don't think they can hold out. No worries, you'll get in somehow.

Tigers are running away with the division...... they are this years version of the 02 Angels, they will win the world series....

who has the best starting pitching in the league.....?.....D-town.

I tend to go for that whole multiple intelligence thing.

The ability and rapidity to dynamically apply prior knowledge; novel data and inferrence to a situation in response to the apparent requirements of that situtation.

In essence: you gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, know when to hit a home run.

Earnings means zip. Plenty of people have earning power which is simply not backed up by success in any other field other than that very specific area in which they earn. Of course, theories are meaningless unless they can realistically be applied and therefore falisified (the ultimate test of any theory - the ability to withstand itself).

Toodles.

What about creative intlligence? I knew a guy with water on the brain and for the most part a retard but he was somehow a musical genius. I think it's more complicated.

In what way was he a musical genius?

Did he have an extreme talent for reproducing musical score? Did he have a talent for being able to compose effective peices on the fly? Could he, after some work, produce a novel piece of work that was effective in communicating the intended feeling and context?

Regardless, all three situations mentioned are already covered by my definition. It is actually precisely the application of intelligence, of whatever type, to the situtation that most suits that intelligence, that makes the definition of intelligence so hard to reify in a way that makes its limits and strengths easy to put into a tangible scalar framework.

In essence, intelligence is hard to clearly and unambigously define due to the huge array of areas that it's possible to display intelligence in.

Yeah I see what you’re getting at. I just wonder how it's possible to come up with any ubiquitous definition of intelligence when a guy, like the one i mentioned, can be so intelligent and so not intelligent at the same time.

Go Tigers (both Detroit and Hanshin).

why do you always have to quote someone, Paladin? can't you just come up with your own ideas? "intelligence: what is it, really?" oh, brother.....how deep. let's all discuss the depth to which intelligence is mined. and isn't Palladin just the most intelligent for coming up with this brilliantly origanl topic.