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07-23-2006, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Left Turn Messages have been written on bombs for a good while anyway. Nothing like invoking an imperial-jingoistic sentiment amongst the youth with a bit of artillery art.
I'm not reading that much into it, apart from Isreal trying to stoke up nationalist sentiment in a time of agressive war. Which would make it different from the US and UK... how, exactly? | EXACTLY.
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07-23-2006, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Daylight22 EXACTLY. | Yes, but don't assume I think highly of the US and the UK. |
07-23-2006, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Left Turn Yes, but don't assume I think highly of the US and the UK. | Well, from that statement, I assumed the opposite to be true. Hence my remark.
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07-23-2006, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Left Turn Yes, but don't assume I think highly of the US and the UK. | Yes, we now think you are just like Zted  |
07-23-2006, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jmr I don't believe that. Hamas is a terrorist organization.Certain factions within Hamas are attempting to be moderate now that they have been elected and so called legitimized,but their ultimate goal is the destruction of Israel. Involving children in War? At what point are we starting? Does 5 years ago count? | As far as I know, Hamas are a Shi'ite militia. They're Islamic fundamentalists, so would therefore take the Koran very seriously. And it is expressly forbidden to use children in war as soldiers.
I don't think Hamas, or even sections of it, are 'moderating' out of choice, it's a nessecitity. Their election to the PNA was a bit of a fuck up, because they were so used to blaming Fatah (as well as Israel, natch) for all of Palestine's woes. If they don't actually get their act together, they're going to be left out in the cold. In fact, that's why Hamas got into government in the first
And Hamas are not the only ones which such ill-will towards their neighbours. There are ultra-Zionist parties in the Isreali Knesset which call for Isreal to strech from the Med to Jordan.  |
07-23-2006, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Daylight22 Well, from that statement, I assumed the opposite to be true. Hence my remark. | The US and UK can't talk about peace. The formation of the United Kingdom was a bloody imperial advance, just look at the great big fuck up that is Northern Ireland.
The US's shoddy (to put it lightly) track record on human rights does not begin with Gitmo. It began when they thought it was a jolly good laugh to kick the shit out of countries where the leading sectors of the economy is subsistence farming.
I'm not pro-Hizbollah, but I'm not pro-Israel either. I'd with the third camp - the working class. |
07-23-2006, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jmr Yes, we now think you are just like Zted | Wha.. what? WHAT?
Withdraw that vicious libel, or else I'll see you in court, you CUR! |
07-23-2006, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Left Turn As far as I know, Hamas are a Shi'ite militia. They're Islamic fundamentalists, so would therefore take the Koran very seriously. And it is expressly forbidden to use children in war as soldiers. | All fundamentalists takes shit way too seriously regardless of what denomination they are.
For you to say that some Islamic fundamentalists are not terrorists because they take the Koran seriously. Well...I just don't know what to say to that  Quote: |
I don't think Hamas, or even sections of it, are 'moderating' out of choice, it's a nessecitity. Their election to the PNA was a bit of a fuck up, because they were so used to blaming Fatah (as well as Israel, natch) for all of Palestine's woes. If they don't actually get their act together, they're going to be left out in the cold. In fact, that's why Hamas got into government in the first
| A bit of a fuck up? Quote: |
And Hamas are not the only ones which such ill-will towards their neighbours. There are ultra-Zionist parties in the Isreali Knesset which call for Isreal to strech from the Med to Jordan.
| Old school ZIonists are no better. I have said that many times |
07-23-2006, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jmr All fundamentalists takes shit way too seriously regardless of what denomination they are.
For you to say that some Islamic fundamentalists are not terrorists because they take the Koran seriously. Well...I just don't know what to say to that | No, I never said that. It's quite clear that Hamas are a terrorist militia. What I did say is that they don't use kids, not as far as I know, for 'military' operations. Doesn't mean they aren't terrorists. You can't really convey irony over t'internet. Quote: |
Old school ZIonists are no better. I have said that many times
| Indeed. |
07-23-2006, 04:16 PM
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07-23-2006, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jmr I take the zted crack back | Good. |
07-23-2006, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Left Turn The US and UK can't talk about peace. The formation of the United Kingdom was a bloody imperial advance, just look at the great big fuck up that is Northern Ireland.
The US's shoddy (to put it lightly) track record on human rights does not begin with Gitmo. It began when they thought it was a jolly good laugh to kick the shit out of countries where the leading sectors of the economy is subsistence farming.
I'm not pro-Hizbollah, but I'm not pro-Israel either. I'd with the third camp - the working class. | Well stated. Although "shoddy" is being far too polite.
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07-23-2006, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Daylight22 Well stated. Although "shoddy" is being far too polite. | What are you talking about? The US is a glorious beacon of freedom and light in the world!
lol. |
07-23-2006, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by herekitty What are you talking about? The US is a glorious beacon of freedom and light in the world!
lol. | hahahaha, and when a courtney needs a lesson on how democracy works, there is only ONE place to go: North Korea.
EDIT: note how i meant to type COUNTRY and ended up typing COURTNEY.
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Last edited by Daylight22 : 07-23-2006 at 05:00 PM.
Reason: fucking courtney love.
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07-23-2006, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Daylight22 hahahaha, and when a courtney needs a lesson on how democracy works, there is only ONE place to go: North Korea.
EDIT: note how i meant to type COUNTRY and ended up typing COURTNEY. | Hmmm.. so thats why Coutney's new album isn't out yet. She's in North Korea learning how democracy works so she can elect Paris for president with Courtney as the vice president of course. |
07-23-2006, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeSapphire Hmmm.. so thats why Coutney's new album isn't out yet. She's in North Korea learning how democracy works so she can elect Paris for president with Courtney as the vice president of course. | yes. she sent me some coked-up ESP(N) message while i was mid-sentence, hence my fuck-up.
i hear her album will be out any day now, and by any day i mean 2012.
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07-27-2006, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by crassy |
ahhhh, isn't that so cute... The little girl signing the big bomb...
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