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07-15-2006, 11:06 AM
| | Oliver's gangrene | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Olioliolioil's fat face
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| | | killing children why is this happenin' so many dead kids on the news what the hell
stop killing children
i believe they are our future
pray 4 peace | 
07-15-2006, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Ruffneck stop killing children | That line should not be funny. | 
07-15-2006, 11:44 AM
| | Oliver's gangrene | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Olioliolioil's fat face
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Originally Posted by Eon That line should not be funny. | We've reached a period where expressing these "naive" thoughts is considered stupid, simplistic and inappropriate, because we've also reached a period in time where people think it's okay to justify these acts of violence. War today is a source of entertainment. Look at how media outlets compete to be the first to bring you the best of news for its own gains. War is no longer a nightmare. It's an excuse to celebrate and to identify yourself by turning your back against whoever you define as your enemy. Picking side becomes inevitable, hence the continuation of this war and the civilians' reactions to it.
My post summarizes the supposedly neutral news coverage today. Stop killing children. But whose children? A child dies and the media plays with the images to force fence sitters to take sides. A child dies and instead of mourning people insist on pointing their fingers at whoever deserves the "revenge." A child dies and the majority of the world have their own personal problems and don't want to listen to how, why, or when that child's life was taken away.
And you want to make a difference, right? You want to increase awareness, and the only ones listening are the ones ready to criticise your calls for help. It's a funny, funny world we live in, where apathy is not only welcomed but encouraged. Where being quiet is wiser than yelling your opinions out for those ready to leave their nationalistic ideals behind and act as humans who want to ensure the safety of all members of this species, and not just their own tribes. Where children die for reasons their leaders are responsible for, so they deserve no weeping. Images of their dead bodies are scattered across all kinds of mediums without their family's permission. And our few-second reaction to it is all that child will get. Nothing else. Today you're thanking God this is another mother's life, this is another person's relative, some other child's best friend, but at the rate this world is changing in, soon that will be your child or your friend. And in the meantime you wake up thanking whichever god you worship that your life is not theirs. You wake up expecting your head to rest back on the same pillow. But our daily routines wouldn't last for long.
We have a choice to wake up and smell the coffee, but we choose not to. If we only considered these people instead of wasting our time taking everything for granted, don't expect the war not to extend itself to where you and your loved ones are. But don't expect not to be laughed at when you take the "naive" and hippy route of actually praying for peace, instead of complaining about how sick you are of these conflicts and how detached you wish you were from daily news. | 
07-15-2006, 11:44 AM
|  | kitschy minger | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: the medusa cascade
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| | | lmfao oh the grammar
__________________ first impressions are cheap auditions
situations are long goodbyes | 
07-15-2006, 02:16 PM
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| | | what? | 
07-15-2006, 02:52 PM
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| | | "they are our future", shut up youre a fucking mormon or what? | 
07-15-2006, 02:58 PM
|  | nowurshitmakesnosensefkr | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Houston, Texas
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Originally Posted by creez "they are our future", shut up youre a fucking mormon or what? | i smell a "We Are The World" cover. | 
07-15-2006, 03:02 PM
| | Oliver's gangrene | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Olioliolioil's fat face
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| | | Holy mother of crap, this fucking place is like an alzheimer's convention. Nobody gets it. | 
07-15-2006, 03:04 PM
|  | nowurshitmakesnosensefkr | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Houston, Texas
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| | | we get it. but sometimes people don't take things seriously. don't get your boxers in a bunch. | 
07-15-2006, 03:08 PM
| | Oliver's gangrene | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Olioliolioil's fat face
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Originally Posted by Jonny-boy we get it. but sometimes people don't take things seriously. | No. You don't. You wouldn've added on to the idiocy if you did. Do refrain from speaking for everyone else when it comes to these matters. You don't represent anybody. Quote: |
don't get your boxers in a bunch
| If you keep using these dreadful expressions when talking to me, I will destroy you. | 
07-15-2006, 03:15 PM
|  | nowurshitmakesnosensefkr | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Houston, Texas
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Originally Posted by Ruffneck No. You don't. You wouldn've added on to the idiocy if you did. Do refrain from speaking for everyone else when it comes to these matters. You don't represent anybody.
If you keep using these dreadful expressions when talking to me, I will destroy you. | first of all, i got it. god knows i didn't read it ALL because my attention span is short today.
secondly, don't tell me what i would do if i really understood it because you just don't fucking know, mk?
thirdly, when i said "we", i meant anyone else who understands and i will speak for whoever the hell i choose.
fourthly, i will use whatever expressions i want and if you don't like it, i will drop my friend's baby brother down a well, okay? how would you like that?
and another thing, you don't know who and who i don't represent so shut the fuck up because, one again, you don't know. | 
07-15-2006, 03:32 PM
| | Oliver's gangrene | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Olioliolioil's fat face
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first of all, i got it. god knows i didn't read it ALL because my attention span is short today.
secondly, don't tell me what i would do if i really understood it because you just don't fucking know, mk?
| Simmer down, you obnoxious reject. If you didn't read all of it, you didn't get it. If you fucking got it, a) you'd have a different reaction, and b) you would've wanted to read all of it. But you didn't, why? Because you didn't get it. Quote: |
thirdly, when i said "we", i meant anyone else who understands and i will speak for whoever the hell i choose.
| No. I'm a member of this board and nothing you say will represent me and my ideas. This board consists of individuals you don't know personally. So when you say "we," you're really just referring to your other rediculous personalities. You're that mental. Quote: |
fourthly, i will use whatever expressions i want and if you don't like it, i will drop my friend's baby brother down a well, okay? how would you like that?
| How about I eat you inside out while you're still alive, dolt? Quote: |
and another thing, you don't know who and who i don't represent so shut the fuck up because, one again, you don't know.
| Was this supposed to be remotely insulting? You're fucking 15 years old. I suggest you take your rebellious phase and shove it up your saggy ass. Fuck off of this thread unless you'd like to embarrass yourself further, emo child. | 
07-15-2006, 03:43 PM
|  | nowurshitmakesnosensefkr | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Houston, Texas
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Originally Posted by Ruffneck Simmer down, you obnoxious reject. If you didn't read all of it, you didn't get it. If you fucking got it, a) you'd have a different reaction, and b) you would've wanted to read all of it. But you didn't, why? Because you didn't get it. | did you... not even read what i said? you tell me not to speak for others, but you think you can speak for my actions and how i would react? yes, please hun... Quote: |
No. I'm a member of this board and nothing you say will represent me and my ideas. This board consists of individuals you don't know personally. So when you say "we," you're really just referring to your other rediculous personalities. You're that mental.
| when i said "we", i wasn't referring to anyone who didn't agree with me, moron. Quote: |
How about I eat you inside out while you're still alive, dolt?
| sure, time and date? Quote: |
Was this supposed to be remotely insulting? You're fucking 15 years old. I suggest you take your rebellious phase and shove it up your saggy ass. Fuck off of this thread unless you'd like to embarrass yourself further, emo child.
| correction: i'm 15? try 17.
correction: my rebellious phase ended with 10th grade.
correction: my ass is not saggy, i'm only 17, remember?
and: i have not embarrassed myself on any level. and hello?! do i look emo to you? i wonder how i'm emo when i don't listen to their shitty music, most of them hate me for being a happy person, i don't hang out with them, my hair is not all chopped up where its long in the front and short in the back, girlpants? ...ew! i wouldn't be caught dead with those people. fag? yes. emo?no
so please. shut up. and go away. you've been here, what, a week? i was a prehack member you twat.
p.s. i love you!  | 
07-15-2006, 03:47 PM
| | Oliver's gangrene | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Olioliolioil's fat face
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| | | My God. I'm not even going to put up with kids who insist on exposing us to their contrived hilarity.
Shut up. For the sake of everyone on this forum, just shut the fuck up. | 
07-15-2006, 03:48 PM
|  | WWJCtrlZ? | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NC
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| | | there's too many people in this world. I say we start killing more children, you know, before their reproductive organs mature. get 'em before they get you. the more kids we have, the more stupid they get. dumb kids should be shot. I like to think of it as protecting a genetic legacy. | 
07-15-2006, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruffneck We've reached a period where expressing these "naive" thoughts is considered stupid, simplistic and inappropriate, because we've also reached a period in time where people think it's okay to justify these acts of violence. | or maybe because we've reached a period in time where people just don't give a fuck
as sad as that may be Quote: |
Originally Posted by Ruffneck War today is a source of entertainment. Look at how media outlets compete to be the first to bring you the best of news for its own gains. War is no longer a nightmare. It's an excuse to celebrate and to identify yourself by turning your back against whoever you define as your enemy. Picking side becomes inevitable, hence the continuation of this war and the civilians' reactions to it. | violence has always been a source of entertainment, just look at the roman gladiators
appears to be a part of human nature, doesn't it?
war is violence, what we're doing now really isn't much different than in the past
now it's televised and political with much higher stakes, but i think that it's fundamentally the same thing
wars have always been fought and celebrated
we're horrible wretched creatures Quote: |
Originally Posted by Ruffneck My post summarizes the supposedly neutral news coverage today. Stop killing children. But whose children? A child dies and the media plays with the images to force fence sitters to take sides. A child dies and instead of mourning people insist on pointing their fingers at whoever deserves the "revenge." A child dies and the majority of the world have their own personal problems and don't want to listen to how, why, or when that child's life was taken away. | the media is fucked up, good and proper
anyone who doesn't realize that is just an idiot Quote: |
Originally Posted by Ruffneck And you want to make a difference, right? You want to increase awareness, and the only ones listening are the ones ready to criticise your calls for help. It's a funny, funny world we live in, where apathy is not only welcomed but encouraged. | this is true Quote: |
Originally Posted by Ruffneck Where being quiet is wiser than yelling your opinions out for those ready to leave their nationalistic ideals behind and act as humans who want to ensure the safety of all members of this species, and not just their own tribes. Where children die for reasons their leaders are responsible for, so they deserve no weeping. Images of their dead bodies are scattered across all kinds of mediums without their family's permission. And our few-second reaction to it is all that child will get. Nothing else. Today you're thanking God this is another mother's life, this is another person's relative, some other child's best friend, but at the rate this world is changing in, soon that will be your child or your friend. And in the meantime you wake up thanking whichever god you worship that your life is not theirs. You wake up expecting your head to rest back on the same pillow. But our daily routines wouldn't last for long.
We have a choice to wake up and smell the coffee, but we choose not to. If we only considered these people instead of wasting our time taking everything for granted, don't expect the war not to extend itself to where you and your loved ones are. But don't expect not to be laughed at when you take the "naive" and hippy route of actually praying for peace, instead of complaining about how sick you are of these conflicts and how detached you wish you were from daily news. | yeah, alright, so now we're all aware of it
now what, exactly?
simple awareness just isn't enough
as evidenced by the problem of global warming, for example | 
07-15-2006, 03:52 PM
| | Oliver's gangrene | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Olioliolioil's fat face
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Originally Posted by devotchka there's too many people in this world. I say we start killing more children, you know, before their reproductive organs mature. get 'em before they get you. the more kids we have, the more stupid they get. dumb kids should be shot. I like to think of it as protecting a genetic legacy. | Here's an interesting thought. China would've been on your side if you had expressed this to whoever enforced the one-child policy. However, it was this policy that is destroying China's economy. In a matter of years, the number of old people will outnumber the Chinese youth. Meaning, they won't have enough people for their workforce. It's a bad way of controlling the population, but it seemed like a last resort. India and Bangladesh aren't willing to lose their workers. They know that the higher the population, the faster your economy will rise.
So if you want to kill kids, you'll have to accept a new but poor lifestyle. No one else is going to provide for you. | 
07-15-2006, 03:54 PM
|  | nowurshitmakesnosensefkr | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Houston, Texas
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Originally Posted by Ruffneck My God. I'm not even going to put up with kids who insist on exposing us to their contrived hilarity.
Shut up. For the sake of everyone on this forum, just shut the fuck up. | well if you'd like to pretend to be mature. psychologically speaking, your insistence on calling me a "kid" in every response only shows your need to come up with something to feel superior. and also, please don't speak for anyone else on the forum. i know about 5 people that'll agree with you, but that's not "everyone on this forum". | 
07-15-2006, 04:05 PM
| | Oliver's gangrene | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Olioliolioil's fat face
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we're horrible wretched creatures
| You see, that's the thing. We're really not. It's how we are portrayed. The majority of the world's population aren't involved in war and don't know their political position because facts are no longer provided. They are only skewed to reach an editor's interests. A lot of people who can't choose their stance become peace activists. They don't fight FOR peace, rather they fight by failing the media. In other words, they don't pick sides. They unite against violence and terrorism and choose that over a national identity. Quote: |
the media is fucked up, good and proper
| Not all forms of it.
Think of... well, the internet. It's an increasingly popular medium, and in the Middle East, it's a great way to fight for freedom. Our ISPs block our sites but we react by opening another one. Blogging has changed the socio-political culture here, and no one expected that to happen. But it did, and it's a result of the overly austere limitations within the sphere of the media. We have an opinion and we will express it, whether the governments like it or not.
If not through the press, then through the internet. If not through the internet, then through our own non-state owned newsletters. Quote:
yeah, alright, so now we're all aware of it
now what, exactly?
simple awareness just isn't enough
| True awareness is inspiration. If you're aware but you can't do anything about it, then you're not truly aware of the situation. It's like the emo kid here, he says he "gets it" but he really doesn't. You think you're aware when you just know that things are happening. What you don't know is how you can contribute positively to inspire change, that's the least you could do. Inspire and encourage people to get involved. Our politics here have changed because of people. Simple, average people. Not governments and not international help. Local people who were aware and in turn, inspired, to make a difference. And they did. And I have no one else to thank for my new, more democratic lifestyle but the enduring efforts of these people.
Our society was asleep at the time, but is that ever a good excuse to stop any of us from moving forward? If they simply don't care about the future, there's nothing one can do about them. It's what they are and who they've become, and quite frankly it's disgusting. But when they're GIVEN reason not to care and to look elsewhere for non-violent entertainment, it takes a few words. A few inspirational words by someone who cares in order to take a step towards something that makes a different. It's hard, and a lot of the time it's impossible, but it's always worth the try. People who remain comfortably numb have sad excuses to stay careless and uninterested, and these exact excuses will be the reason your nation will go backwards. | 
07-15-2006, 04:12 PM
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| | | so why don't you get off the internets and do something about it? | |