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Old 07-14-2006, 12:40 AM
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What I want to know is if he got a good clubbing as well.
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Old 07-14-2006, 11:03 AM
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You can get arrested for wearing a Nazi shirt in Germany, these ideaological double standars, I dont know. Any T-Shirt wth a political message should probably be banned.
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Old 07-14-2006, 11:07 AM
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That's what I love about you. Always standing up for the freedoms of US citizens.

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Old 07-14-2006, 11:08 AM
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You can get arrested for wearing a Nazi shirt in Germany, these ideaological double standars, I dont know.
So? Different country, different history, etc. There's no law again Nazi shirts in America.
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Old 07-14-2006, 11:09 AM
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You can get arrested for wearing a Nazi shirt in Germany, these ideaological double standars, I dont know. Any T-Shirt wth a political message should probably be banned.
Any message is political, if you're in a totalitarian mood that day. And what cop isn't?
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Old 07-14-2006, 11:11 AM
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That's what I love about you. Always standing up for the freedoms of US citizens.

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Anyone wearing a peace T-shirt is obviously a tree-hugging sodomite though. Even I wouldn't dispute that. Hot Topic Ramones T-shirts all round!
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Old 07-14-2006, 11:15 AM
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Anyone wearing a peace T-shirt is obviously a tree-hugging sodomite though. Even I wouldn't dispute that.
But I believe even the tree hugging sodomites should be given some freedoms. That's what the USA is all about!
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Old 07-14-2006, 11:18 AM
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But I believe even the tree hugging sodomites should be given some freedoms. That's what the USA is all about!
You'd like England. Really. Ditch the sinking ship.
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You'd like England. Really. Ditch the sinking ship.
I know this invitation wasn't personally extended to me, but I figure I can stay in the country where I was born if I want to hear all day every day how I'm the cause of all the problems in the world. It would be for completely opposite reasons than I hear it now, but after a while that doesn't matter so much (and living in NYC probably means I hear it less in person than I would living in Europe)
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Old 07-14-2006, 11:31 AM
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I know this invitation wasn't personally extended to me, but I figure I can stay in the country where I was born if I want to hear all day every day how I'm the cause of all the problems in the world. It would be for completely opposite reasons than I hear it now, but after a while that doesn't matter so much (and living in NYC probably means I hear it less in person than I would living in Europe)

Oh, we get that here too. But the media's generally on our side, and we get the uncensored version of Farenheit thrown in. God bless champagne socialism.
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Old 07-14-2006, 11:51 AM
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Oh, we get that here too. But the media's generally on our side, and we get the uncensored version of Farenheit thrown in. God bless champagne socialism.
Well, I figure if I won't let George Bush tell me I'm not a real American, there's no reason to let anyone else. It's my country too. Not that I want to leave NYC, uh, ever. But, like myself, NYC is American even if Bush & co don't think so.
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Old 07-14-2006, 11:54 AM
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I figured NYC was barely America anyway. I'm surprised it hasn't ceded yet. I reckon the states will disunite in the next few decades anyway. If you can't have a vaguely unified standard of government across the country why be a country at all?
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I figured NYC was barely America anyway. I'm surprised it hasn't ceded yet. I reckon the states will disunite in the next few decades anyway. If you can't have a vaguely unified standard of government across the country why be a country at all?
It's challenging to have such a large country. But one of the things that's good about it is that people can move somewhere they like better without government permission. I couldn't actually move to England unless I was marrying a citizen or being sponsored by an employer or something (well, I guess if I was independantly wealthy I could, but as far as I know, I have no right to a job there without a British spouse or an employer sponsor).
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You can get arrested for wearing a Nazi shirt in Germany, these ideaological double standars, I dont know. Any T-Shirt wth a political message should probably be banned.
Then why not ban free speech? That way Nazis won't be able to speak about being a Nazi or Nazism at all.
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Perhaps free speech should be refined so that people can only talk about things that aren’t taboo? Is there any reason to allow support for Nazism since its blatantly false?
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Perhaps free speech should be refined so that people can only talk about things that aren’t taboo? Is there any reason to allow support for Nazism since its blatantly false?
Allowing it to be discussed openly means we know where and who these people are. "Sunlight is the best disinfectant." And who decides what is and isn't taboo?
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Old 07-14-2006, 12:59 PM
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Perhaps free speech should be refined so that people can only talk about things that aren’t taboo? Is there any reason to allow support for Nazism since its blatantly false?

If you start trying to restrict "free speech" it wouldn't be very free.
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it's a mistake to blame this on the cop that did it.
there's a policy that goes all the way up to the white house calling for this sort of behavior.

and as far as "and i thought we won the war..." think again...

How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power
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