How many festivals/gigs/concerts that you have wanted to go to sold out before you could even get tickets, only to find there are thousands going on Ebay the next day for double the price?

this happened to me with the reading tickets, i was raging!
i had two computers and two phones on the go trying to get some with no luck, only for them to be on ebay within minutes of them selling out. it isnt fair that people are buying them only to make a profit when genuine people actually want them. god knows what they can do about though, although they should have maybe brought down how many each person could get to 4 of something instead of 6.

^ Yeah that happened with me too. And some of them were selling them for £400!! I dont have a problem with people selling tickets for a reasonable price, its the overly priced which anger me.

using the word "fair" here is not too wise.....

• An item is offered for sale

• People pay the price listed for said item. that individual now owns the item

• Certain individuals purchase the item knowing that the demand will be greater than the supply

• They then can sell this item for a higher price, once the demand outpaces supply

• This is called simple economics

why would you believe the government should make simple economic practices illegal?

then merely do not purchase them. the demand was greater than the supply, ergo, prices become inflated.

luft is right, but i still want them to get the death penalty.

yes!

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i think there may be something on my head.

you never know some people might buy 1000 tickets to a show and 995 of there friends cancel out on them.

Ha. Yeah.

I work for a box office and I'm always faced with this problem. The only effective way we've managed to control it is by employing security staff when things go on sale, and limiting the number of tickets people can buy. There's nothing even remotely illegal about it, and I'm not sure how they would outlaw it, but it's a cunts trick.

Your right - making money out of people is simple economics, doesnt mean its right. There is a strong demand for child porn and low supply, is that simple economics that can be capitalised?

The problem is this; people who genuinly want to go to gigs/festivals are being denied because touts are buying the majority of tickets to make money out of people who couldnt get through. Case in point - Reading Festival. Many people physically could not get tickets because the phone/internet was jam packed with touts buying loads of tickets to sell on. The whole festival completely sold out in less than 10 hours and there were thousands of genuine fans who couldnt go. When I went in 98, the tickets were on sale for at least a couple of weeks before selling out...

So "Unfair" i think is a very appropriate word to use here...

Because it's fucking retarded.

This is a perfect example of how the free market needs regulation in order to be fair to people.

Sure, the world may not be fair - but at the end of the day its about us humans, and we have emotions and need to be nice to each other else there's no point existing.

Luftwaffe is evidently partially psychopathic or just doesn't have emotions, so I guess his opinion (yet again) has no valid grounding...

Its like the 'not for resale' tags on products, it should be the same for tickets, people should not be allowed to do it. Don't know how a law against it could be enforced though.

Ebay could remove the auctions.

Haven't the official ticket companies already made it illegal?

But I don't think its enforced - most likely a civil offence rather than criminal.

Child porn is illegal, so not a good example. It definitely reeks of unfairness though.

Child porn is illegal because it exploits small children. Ticket touting should be made illegal because it exploits genuine fans. Think about all those people who are going to be missing out on not getting tickets, to them its a trauma. Granted its not the same as being molested by a dirty uncle, but the principle remains the same.

exploitation and exploitation for money is wrong.

people need direct their frustrations no further than the people who initially sell the tickets and the organisers who license them to do so. it is standard industry practise to sell blocks of 1000s in one transaction prior to public sale. that's why they sell out so quickly. do you really think there are 50,000 people all one the phone giving out all their details resulting in 50,000 tickets selling out in 5 minutes? i'm not saying it isn't possible, i'm just saying i know it doesn't happen that way.

those ticket touts you see on ebay are generally small fry - looking for a quick 100% profit on a small investment. there is a proper and legitimate market out there that is taking you all for a far greater ride. i've got a funny feeling that much of the money works it's way up the supply chain again. it's probably about squeezing as much money out of people as possible - not everyone will pay £400 for a ticket but some may - why not set up an artifical supply line with with a structured price range for the same product?