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Old 05-02-2011, 06:00 PM
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Getting elective cosmetic procedures as an adult isn't exactly rare. It wouldn't make sense to argue that not giving your baby a nose job or boob implants is the same as making the choice for them that they will have big noses and small boobs. When someone wants their body modified badly enough, they will modify it.

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Thought I would bump this thread as cir***cision is a kr favourite and Germany has actually banned it

This German cir***cision ban is an affront to Jewish and Muslim identity | Giles Fraser | Comment is free | The Guardian

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A lot of those comments are from mad liberals saying that Germany is right. Oh, it had to be Germany to do this. Goddam.
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:40 AM
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I love reading the Guardian comments

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There's no such thing as a Muslim child or a Jewish child or a Christian child, any more than there's such a thing as a Maoist child or a Libertarian child.
I was convinced about this before, it's a Dawkins argument. But the author of the piece wrote something I haven't considered before

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As I argued in this week's Church Times, one of the most familiar modern mistakes about faith is that it is something that goes on in your head. This is rubbish. Faith is about being a part of something wider than oneself. We are not born as mini rational agents in waiting, not fully formed as moral beings until we have the ability to think and choose for ourselves. We are born into a network of relationships that provide us with a cultural background against which things come to make sense. "We" comes before "I". We constitutes our horizon of significance. Which is why many Jews who consider themselves to be atheists would still consider themselves to be Jewish. And cir***cision is the way Jewish and Muslim men are marked out as being involved in a reality greater than themselves.
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