i had to do a report on it, and i didnt really know much about the subject because i was really young when it happened. i knew it had something to do with a cult, but anyways i had no idea about all of this suppossed government coverup and its connections to oklahoma city. has anyone seen the documentary Waco: rules of engagment? truths or just conspiracy theories? opinions?

I watched a documentary on A&E a few years back on it, its crazy, Im big on conspiracies so I would be interested in reading more about it. I just saw a great one on 9/11 ...intense, its amazing what a government can do and make us belive what they want. However cults in themselves as well as polygomist seem to be pretty fanatic.

yeah, the documentary didnt really make me side with the Davidians, it just made me question the governments acts. The begining seemed like it tried to make Koresh seem like an ordinary sane person, which i just can not agree with

The entire freaking mess could have been avoided if the ATF had let the local sheriff walk up to the front door, knock and handle it himself. But no, they had to go in Top Cop fashion for reasons I don't really feel like going through right now.

In short, it didn't have to happen that way.

You're right it didn't have to happen, except its David Koresh who could have ended it. 100% of the blame for what happened there is his fault.

So, you're a fan of "Dynamic entry" even when its clearly not needed? How much do you know about it? Have you listen to the 911 tapes from inside the compound?

riiiiiiight...

Your tune would be quite different had Bush Boy been the one who did it.

ooh this reminds that earlier today i came across a book i thought i'd long left back in the states about the rev. jim jones; "the suicide cult: the inside story of the peoples temple sect and the massacre in guyana".

Can the definition of a conservative or liberal "intellectual" also be defined as the person who believe the party line no matter how unlikely, outrageous, or insane the belief system is.

The facts of the case:

On FEBRUARY 28, at 9:30 a.m federal agents did a dynamic entry on the compound. This was wrong.

On March 11, 1993 Janet Reno appointed as AG. So she could not have had nothing to do with the failed raid.

APRIL 19 the compound went up inflames, this was also wrong.

Did I just say both administrations screwed up in this case? How outrageous!

If your on a quest for God, you'll never find him in political ideology, or in an elected offical.

hmm....

hello, Janet Reno.

she gave the orders that encompassed setting fire and using accelerants on said fire, on the branch davidians.


wouldn't you wonder why the BATF is involved, if the alleged charges were for child abuse? it has nothing to do with them whatsoever.

very fucking true. nice statement

beliving in ideologies causes ones brain to cease being functional....

I find it odd that people who would scoff at religion, or on the other hand debunk another persons religion as false, will follow leaders or believe in a political ideology, what could be consider a religious zeal. Is this one of the pillars of totalitarian regimes, wars, etc?